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Meeting of the Parliament 08 May 2024

08 May 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Motions

Scottish Labour will support the amendment to the business motion, because we believe that there should be a statement from the Lord Advocate, and I want to say why. There is emerging evidence that the Crown Office knew or ought to have known that the Horizon system was questionable, and we still do not have answers on that.

We obviously need to see the details of the bill, but we will support any attempts to overturn convictions. However, it will not be enough for victims simply to have their convictions overturned. In fact, in the Sheriff Appeal Court this week, there were six cases in which it was deemed that the Horizon evidence was not corroboration, so those cases were overturned. Victims will want accountability for the full timeline in relation to who took decisions and why better decisions were not made, because what happened resulted in the prosecutions in the first place. I think that victims would want a statement followed by detailed questions and answers.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-13139, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on a change to bu...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I note that Pauline McNeill has asked to speak on the motion.
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Apologies, Presiding Officer—I do not want to speak at the moment.
The Presiding Officer NPA
No member has asked to speak. Therefore, the question is, that motion S6M-13139 be agreed to. Motion agreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-13122, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a bus...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
This is now the third time that I have sought to make a change to the business that the Scottish Government has proposed. I am proposing that the Parliament ...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Made a request to intervene.
Douglas Ross Con
Can any SNP or Green member who might be about to vote against getting the Lord Advocate into the chamber outline the Lord Advocate’s position? They cannot.
Pauline McNeill Lab
I will.
Douglas Ross Con
I will come to Pauline McNeill in a minute. I cannot fathom how democratically elected members who are sent to the chamber to represent their constituents c...
Pauline McNeill Lab
Scottish Labour will support the amendment to the business motion, because we believe that there should be a statement from the Lord Advocate, and I want to ...
Douglas Ross Con
I agree whole-heartedly with Pauline McNeill. As I said yesterday, she will ask the First Minister a question on the subject tomorrow, but it would probably ...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (George Adam) SNP
Let us at least talk about the positives. We now all agree that those who were involved in the Post Office scandal, and who suffered as a result, are actuall...
Douglas Ross Con
Will the minister give way?
George Adam SNP
As I explained yesterday, all members will get the opportunity to scrutinise the Scottish Government bill as it progresses through Parliament in the usual ma...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment S6M-13122.1, in the name of Douglas Ross, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13122, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 17:42 Meeting suspended. 17:43 On resuming—
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the vote on amendment S6M-13122.1, in the name of Douglas Ross. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is closed.
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My device would not connect—I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Ms Wells. We will ensure that that is recorded.
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I think that my vote was recorded, but my screen is not refreshing. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
I can confirm that your vote was recorded, Ms Duncan-Glancy. Thank you. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division on amendment S6M-13122.1, in the name of Douglas Ross, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13122, in the name of George Adam, on behal...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next question is, that motion S6M-13122, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme, be agreed t...