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Meeting of the Parliament 08 May 2024

08 May 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Gender Identity Services for Children and Young People (Cass Review)

The Cass review is a considered, evidence-based report that was drawn up by experts. It was led by Dr Hilary Cass, former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, and it involved clinicians and young people themselves. We must not ignore Dr Cass’s conclusions, no matter how difficult they may be, as failure to implement all those that apply to the NHS in Scotland would let down both staff and a generation of young people and their families.

Let me turn first to the Scottish Government’s response. The pretence that the Government knew nothing about the review and needed lots of time to consider the report does not hold water, frankly. Meetings took place with Dr Cass, senior clinicians and the Scottish Government well before publication of the final report. Just to be clear, the deputy chief medical officer was there, along with a host of senior Government officials. Let us not forget that there was also an interim report, which set out the direction of travel quite clearly.

The lack of leadership from the SNP Government has been woeful. The unseemly backwards and forwards between the Scottish Government and health boards about who would make the announcement about the pause in puberty blockers was, I thought, quite disgraceful. Instead of taking ownership, the minister chose to leave the burden to the same clinicians who have expressed concerns about the toxicity of the conversation on gender services that is leaving them vulnerable and exposed. It is no wonder that NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde has struggled to recruit consultants at the Sandyford clinic. Staff at the Sandyford clinic do an incredible job, but they are not adequately supported to do so.

The Scottish Government published the NHS gender identity services strategic action framework in 2021, and we welcomed it. The national gender identity healthcare reference group was set up in March 2022 to oversee implementation of the framework, and I note that the deputy chief medical officer co-chairs the group. The reference group’s latest minutes report that the negative impact of the on-going polarised public discussion has taken a toll on the recruitment of staff in gender services. Dr Cass echoed those concerns in her report, stating that there are

“few other areas of healthcare where professionals are so afraid to openly discuss their views, where people are vilified on social media, and where name-calling echoes the worst bullying behaviour. This must stop.”

The Government must take leadership in that area.

However, the framework also impacts on recruitment and it has a knock-on effect on waiting lists. I remember that, when the framework was published, waiting lists were sitting at about four years. They are now sitting at about four and a half years for young people and five and a half years for adults. That is unthinkable. Why is the minister bypassing the already established national gender identity healthcare reference group? Why is the new group being set up when there is one with all that expertise sitting round the table? How is it intended to link the two, or will they exist in splendid isolation from each another?

I understand that National Services Scotland is in the middle of commissioning gender services. Will that include the use of puberty blockers and hormone treatments? If so, from what age? Those are critical questions.

Let me deal briefly with the Labour amendment.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13090, in the name of Meghan Gallacher, on implementing the Cass review in Scotland. 15:15
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Yesterday, I attended the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee’s meeting to hear directly from Dr Hilary Cass following her review of gender care services...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Does Meghan Gallacher believe that there is no excuse for the SNP not to implement the recommendations of the Cass review now that it has broken up its tragi...
Meghan Gallacher Con
Absolutely. This is an opportunity to reset, refocus and actually prioritise young people who need the Government’s support. The Cass review is a four-year-...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms Gallacher, I ask you to move the motion, please.
Meghan Gallacher Con
I move, That the Parliament welcomes the report submitted by Dr Hilary Cass on gender identity services for children and young people; recognises the report...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
Just over two weeks ago, I stood in the chamber to emphasise what is undeniably a fact: that young people who are questioning their gender or accessing gende...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Jenni Minto SNP
I am going to make progress. As I made clear in my statement, a senior multidisciplinary clinical team within the chief medical officer’s directorate in the...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Thank you, minister. In her statement, the minister said that discussions between clinical stakeholders on what further involvement may be appropriate were ...
Jenni Minto SNP
The chief medical officer will provide a written update to Parliament on the outcome of that clinical consideration process before the summer recess. I am su...
Ash Regan (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Alba
The minister has just set out that the CMO will seek to provide a written statement to the Parliament on the progress that is being made, but I ask the Gover...
Jenni Minto SNP
Currently, the CMO is going to provide a written statement, and that is the way that I think the update should be delivered to Parliament. I know that colle...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way on that point?
Jenni Minto SNP
I need to make progress. As part of our work, the Scottish Government is clear that there needs to be transparency. We therefore agree that the CMO will wri...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
The Cass review is a considered, evidence-based report that was drawn up by experts. It was led by Dr Hilary Cass, former president of the Royal College of P...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackie Baillie Lab
I am about to close. We have asked for openness and transparency, with the new working group publishing papers and minutes. I understand that the Government...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
It is undeniable that homophobia and transphobia are on the rise, and that is absolutely true when it comes to the weaponisation of the Cass review. The deba...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members, please show some courtesy and respect to the speaker who has the floor.
Gillian Mackay Green
We have to be aware that the Cass review was a review of services and treatment pathways in NHS England that differ from those in Scotland. As many members h...
Paul Sweeney Lab
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Gillian Mackay Green
I will.
Paul Sweeney Lab
Does the member agree that a key risk that was raised at this week’s meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee was the fact that the long waits—...
Gillian Mackay Green
Yes—absolutely. The other thing that was highlighted at committee was the on-going distress and mental health issues for those young people who experience lo...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this important debate. Although it is a sensitive matter, it is important that we deb...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I am afraid that I do not have time; I have only four minutes. NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde has paused the use of puberty blockers at that clinic to allow ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. I advise members that we have no time in hand and that back-bench speeches are up to four minutes maximum. 15:41
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Sinéad Watson is one of the bravest people whom I have ever met. Sinéad is a detransitioner and someone whom I first heard speak in the Parliament four years...