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Meeting of the Parliament 01 May 2024

01 May 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Motion of No Confidence

I start by recognising the significant announcement that Humza Yousaf made this week—that he was resigning as First Minister. Although he and I have significant political disagreements, it is important to take a moment to thank him for his public service, which has included 12 years as a minister, and I wish him and his family the very best for the future.

However, for me and Scottish Labour, it has never just been about one person. Neither has it been just about the past 17 years of Scottish National Party failure. More significantly, it is about the present and the future. Now, more than ever, our country needs credible and effective leadership and stable and competent government to take on the twin crises that are facing our nation—an economic crisis and a national health service crisis. I have no confidence in the SNP’s ability to deliver that, which is why I have brought the motion to Parliament today.

The motion of no confidence in the SNP Government is based on two principal arguments. First, it is now clear that the SNP, as a political party, is so chaotic, divided and dysfunctional that it cannot deliver competent government and is failing Scots every day. I do not believe that that will change if the SNP purely changes the face at the top.

Let us look at the two candidates who are being suggested: Kate Forbes and John Swinney. There are already SNP ministers briefing journalists that, if Kate Forbes was to become leader, they would actively look to stop her from being able to form a Government, and that would mean even more chaos.

John Swinney is the man who has been at the heart of the SNP Government for the past 17 years and the heart of the SNP leadership for the past 40 years, the finance secretary who broke the public finances, and the worst education secretary in the history of the Scottish Parliament. That is hardly the competence or the change that our country needs.

Secondly, it is about the democratic deficit. It would be untenable for the SNP to impose yet another unelected First Minister on our country, especially in these circumstances. [Interruption.]

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-13005, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on a motion of no confidence. I invite members who wish to speak in th...
Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I start by recognising the significant announcement that Humza Yousaf made this week—that he was resigning as First Minister. Although he and I have signific...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Let us hear Mr Sarwar.
Anas Sarwar Lab
Let me remind the chamber what Nicola Sturgeon said when Rishi Sunak replaced Liz Truss as Prime Minister. She said that we could not have a “revolving door”...
The First Minister (Humza Yousaf) SNP
Presiding Officer, as this is my first opportunity to do so since my announcement on Monday, I begin by putting on record my thanks to you for the job that y...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. I call Douglas Ross. 15:09
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
On a personal level, I wish Humza Yousaf well, as he prepares to leave office. It has been clear that I have disagreed with many of the policies that he has ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Ross, we do not use nicknames in the chamber.
Douglas Ross Con
I am sorry—I thought it was about accuracy, because it would be “Not-so-honest John”, given some of the things that we have heard recently.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Ross! Interruption. Mr Ross, I ask you to apologise then continue. Interruption.
Douglas Ross Con
Then there—
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Ross, apologise then continue. Interruption.
Douglas Ross Con
Then there is John Swinney. Interruption.
The Presiding Officer NPA
I am sorry, Mr Ross. You might not have been able to hear me. I would be grateful if you would apologise, then continue.
Douglas Ross Con
I will apologise. I am very sorry for any hurt caused. If John Swinney is successful, we face the dreadful prospects of Nicola Sturgeon’s prodigy being repl...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
As I have already said to the First Minister personally, the events of the past week are a source of regret but certainly not of hostility or ill will at a p...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Members.
Patrick Harvie Green
If members will permit another viewpoint to be heard, I say that that would leave little more than a year and a half until the legally required dissolution f...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Politics can be ugly, and never more so than last week. However, I must pay great tribute to the First Minister: in a moment of great stress, he made a speec...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I used to think that there really was nothing new in politics, but I have to say that the current period of chaotic government is exceptional, whether at Wes...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that motion S6M-13005, in the name of Anas Sarwar, on a motion of no confidence, be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 15:27 Meeting suspended. 15:30 On resuming—
The Presiding Officer NPA
We come to the vote on motion S6M-13005, in the name of Anas Sarwar. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is closed.
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not work. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Ms Gilruth, I can confirm that your vote was recorded. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division on motion S6M-13005, in the name of Anas Sarwar, is: For 58, Against 70, Abstentions 0. Motion disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a short pause before we move to the next item of business.