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Meeting of the Parliament 26 March 2024

26 Mar 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Higher Education (Access)

It is a privilege to open this debate for Scottish Labour. I thank the minister for bringing it to the chamber, because widening access to education is close to my heart, and I believe that it is a priority that we all share.

It is therefore right that we take the opportunity to celebrate the progress that our institutions have made. They met the interim targets for entrants from students from disadvantaged backgrounds; there has been a rise in the number of young people entering university from care-experienced backgrounds; more disabled people are going to university; and more young people are progressing from further education into higher education.

However, we must also accept the reality. I know from conversations that I have had with institutions, students and staff how committed they all are to the cause of widening access, but, like me and my Labour colleagues, they are becoming increasingly concerned that progress is stalling and that the challenges that they face and that lie ahead will make regaining momentum ever more difficult.

The Scottish National Party Government has sought to use this discussion to pat itself on the back, but this is not a time for complacency. It talks about widening access and supporting higher education institutions, while signing off on a budget that cut £100 million from the sector and at least 1,200 places. The Government’s own analysis has warned that those cuts could have a direct impact on widening access. There are cuts to funding and cuts to places; there is an overreliance on cross-subsidy from international students; and institutions are facing impossible choices. That is this Government’s record. The president of NUS Scotland called it right when she said that, if education is this Government’s priority, it has

“a funny way of showing it.”

The Government’s actions are risking progress. We know—and students, staff, colleges and universities know—that the issue is not just about places and admissions; we need to support students on their entire education journey. There has long been a retention gap between the most affluent and least affluent students, but, worryingly, retention rates are beginning to fall again, in particular for those with widening access markers. Prospective students who are currently considering university need to know that they will get the support that they need so that they can emerge at the other end of their studies ready to contribute to society and move on to successful careers.

However, the impact of the past few years, with the pandemic and the cost of living crisis, has meant that, now more than ever, students require increased levels of support. The pressures of academic life, financial worries and isolation are taking a heavy toll on their wellbeing. NUS Scotland talks about those pressures in its “Broke Students, Broken System” report on the five pillars of education, and it is right—it is not just what happens in the classroom that matters, and we cannot forget that.

Against that backdrop, Scotland’s universities have been grappling with successive years of real-terms cuts from this Government, at a time when outside pressures necessitate more support for their students. The result is that vital support services are overstretched and underresourced. The number of students who request mental health support at university increased threefold between 2010 and 2021. While universities are doing their best to meet that challenge, they are being asked to do more with less, and that is having an impact on retention rates.

What we have is a sector that is held back by this Government, and a funding crisis that is not just isolated in universities, but which extends to colleges, too. It is a crisis that students and staff at colleges have been telling this Government about for years, but it has refused to listen.

I say to the Government today: listen to staff and students at universities and colleges, who are desperate for their sector to be saved.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-12642, in the name of Graeme Dey, on widening access and equality of access to higher education. I invite...
The Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
The debate provides us with an opportunity to reaffirm our collective commitment to widen access to university for people from our poorest communities, and s...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The minister previously pointed out that there were some high-profile courses where there was a challenge. In particular, I am thinking of law courses at the...
Graeme Dey SNP
Mr Whitfield is right to cite that situation. As he will be aware, though, that was an isolated example. I think that the University of Edinburgh has recogni...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention on that point?
Graeme Dey SNP
I want to make some progress if I may. It is worth reflecting on some of the recent changes that will continue to drive the agenda. Since 2020-21, all unive...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I agree with the minister that it is extremely important that we give equal access across all SIMD areas, and the progress is welcome. Is he not concerned th...
Graeme Dey SNP
We are aware of the reliance on international students, but I gently say to Mr Whittle that one of the biggest threats to our university sector—not just in S...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way on that point?
Graeme Dey SNP
I am not going to give way; I want to make some progress. We are not going to rest on our laurels. The widening access agenda is too important for that. I r...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I cannot imagine that anyone in the chamber would disagree that people who want to go to university as part of their life plan should be able to do so, regar...
Graeme Dey SNP
Will the member give way?
Liam Kerr Con
In two seconds, minister. Let us not forget that the fair access report says that progress has stalled and that the Scottish Government is not on track to m...
Graeme Dey SNP
I hope that, in not only the content but the tone of what I said, I recognised a number of the points that the member makes. I very much welcome contribution...
Liam Kerr Con
I recognise that, and I very much welcome the approach to the portfolio that the minister is taking. For far too long, there has been a very restrictive appr...
Graeme Dey SNP
We really need to nail the myth about the 1,200 places. It has been explored multiple times in the Parliament, and it is still peddled by some. The 1,200 pla...
Liam Kerr Con
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance stood in the chamber and conceded that there were 1,200-plus fewer places available to students going forward. We can look ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
It is a privilege to open this debate for Scottish Labour. I thank the minister for bringing it to the chamber, because widening access to education is close...
Graeme Dey SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I will take two seconds to finish this bit. Surely even this Government, if it will not listen to staff and students, as I do on picket lines across Scotlan...
Graeme Dey SNP
I could point to the increase in student support and so on, but let us cut to the chase. We are now almost four minutes into Labour’s opening speech, and we ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I thank the minister for his intervention. On his point about the increase in student support, the Institute for Fiscal Studies has said that there has been ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
Will the member give way?
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I am afraid that I do not have time. The only thing that prevents that from being the case is the tenacity of universities, not this Government. Universiti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I advise members that there is no time in hand and that you will need to stick to your speaking allocation. I call Willie Rennie, who has up to four minutes....
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
This is a rather sensitive subject for Liberal Democrats, but—just to be clear—I point out that we voted for the abolition of tuition fees in this Parliament...
Graeme Dey SNP
There is an implied criticism of the sector in what Willie Rennie has said, although I do not think that he meant it. Circumstances have changed. We have had...
Willie Rennie LD
There was no implied criticism at all. We are all learning as we go along to understand exactly what works best. In Paisley and St Andrews, we have seen what...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Willie Rennie LD
We also need to close the poverty-related attainment gap, and two-year-olds’ access to nursery education needs to improve quite dramatically. 16:29