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Meeting of the Parliament 26 March 2024

26 Mar 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Adam, Karen SNP Banffshire and Buchan Coast Watch on SPTV

As noted at the end of our stage 1 report, the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee is satisfied that the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill is a single-issue bill that provides a technical fix to tidy up the statute book following the rulings of the Court of Session on 18 February and 22 March 2022. As such, we are content to recommend that the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the bill.

Although the Scottish Government did not consult on the bill due to its single-issue nature, the committee agreed that it would be helpful to issue a short call for views to allow interested parties to share their views. The call for views ran from 8 to 29 January and received 56 responses, all of which were published. A breakdown of the responses is set out in paragraph 20 of our stage 1 report, and we are grateful to all those who have provided their views.

Twenty-five respondents supported and understood the bill, recognising that it is in line with the court ruling, but added extra commentary. For example, For Women Scotland questioned what discussion there could be on the minister’s legal obligation to comply with the court order, while others, including Close the Gap and the Young Women’s Movement, noted that the court ruling was based on legislative competence, rather than whether the definition was wrong. Others agreed with the bill but were disappointed with the court ruling.

It is worth noting that 21 of the responses misunderstood the purpose of the bill. It might be worth considering the level of messaging around what, on the face of it, is a fix to update the statute book, focusing on the fact that it is technical and on helping people to better understand its purpose.

In oral evidence, we explored with the cabinet secretary why it had taken the best part of two years from the court judgment to introduce the bill. She explained, in line with the policy memorandum, that that time had been taken to explore whether there was another legislative vehicle through which to make the change. That included, for example, considering whether it could be incorporated in another bill, but that was not possible.

In a written submission, the Scottish Trans Alliance and the Equality Network queried whether an update to the statute book could have been made using subordinate legislation, but that, too, was not viable, as the only regulation-making powers in the 2018 act are in sections 8 and 9, whereas the court ruling related to the definition of women as set out in section 2 of the act. The Scottish Parliament information centre advised us that it was not aware of a provision under any other act that would allow for the 2018 act to be amended.

There was general acknowledgement that the process for exploring options and then drafting and introducing a bill, plus subsequent scrutiny of a technical fix to update the statute book, can be time consuming. A couple of areas of learning for the Government and the Parliament are to consider the level of messaging to help people to understand the purpose of bills, particularly technical ones, and to explore whether there are, or could be, less time-consuming processes by which such technical fixes could be addressed.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-12639, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
The Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill seeks to remove the section 2 definition of “woman” from the original Gender Represent...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Karen Adam to speak on behalf of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. 15:26
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
As noted at the end of our stage 1 report, the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee is satisfied that the Gender Representation on Public Boa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms Adam. I now call on Meghan Gallacher to speak on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. Ms Gallacher is joining us remotely. 15:30
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Today’s stage 1 debate will be relatively brief. The cabinet secretary and the convener have said that the amendment is a technical one. The one question th...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open on behalf of Scottish Labour in the debate. Scottish Labour supported the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018 and...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I speak in the debate as a new member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. I thank the committee clerks for their assistance in the p...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin by thanking the committee for its work and its report. As my colleague Paul O’Kane said, we accept the committee’s recommendations in full and agree ...
Evelyn Tweed (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
As a very new member of the committee, I am pleased to speak in today’s debate. As the convener said, this is essentially a single-issue bill and an exercise...
Ash Regan (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Alba
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the closing speeches. I call Paul O’Kane to close on behalf of Scottish Labour. 15:50
Paul O’Kane Lab
I do not intend to detain the chamber for too much longer in having to listen to me, given that I opened for the Labour Party at the beginning of the debate....
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Annie Wells to close on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. 15:52
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I, too, will keep my remarks short, because we have now heard from most of my fellow members of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee and ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Shirley-Anne Somerville, to close on behalf of the Scottish Government. 15:54
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I thank all the members who have contributed to this afternoon’s debate. As I said in my opening remarks, it is very ...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary join me in recognising the work of For Women Scotland—some of whom are in the gallery today—whose tenacity and fundraising removed...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
As I mentioned in my opening remarks, the Government recognises the court’s decision. It is important that the Government listens to all groups—whether they ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That concludes the debate on the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. There will be a short pause before we move on...