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Meeting of the Parliament 20 December 2023

20 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill
Chapman, Maggie Green North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I begin by thanking the Scottish Law Commission for its detailed and technical work during more than a decade on the different elements of the bill. I am grateful to the Law Society for its work and suggestions, the briefings that I have received from it and the conversations that we have had about this area of law. I put on record my thanks to Stuart McMillan and members of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their consideration and scrutiny work.

The Scottish Greens welcome this technical legislation that seeks to deal with the complexities that more than a century of acts and amendments to them has created. This reform and consolidation is the most significant development in trust law for more than 100 years. It is intended simplify our trusts and succession law and to make it easier for solicitors, trusters, trustees and beneficiaries to understand the legal rights and duties.

During the stage 1 debate on the bill, I raised the need to ensure that trusts support positive environmental and social objectives to enhance our environment and community wellbeing. I also stated that, on landholding trusts, the Scottish Greens believe that offshore trusts, blind trusts and private trusts that exist for tax avoidance or ownership secrecy should not be allowed to hold land. Primary beneficiaries of landholding trusts should demonstrate the productive use or development of land for good, while also being locally accountable and accessible. We want our succession law to support collective benefit and fair inheritance principles, and for it not be used to further contribute to Scotland’s land problem.

We remain concerned about the historic inequalities that are embedded in the structures and concentrated patterns of land ownership, and powers within succession law must be considered as part of our wider land reform for community benefit considerations. However, perhaps those issues go beyond some of the technical parameters of the bill that we are discussing.

In conclusion, I reiterate my thanks to those who have got us to where we are today. I look forward to supporting the bill at decision time and to an update on the section 104 discussions that Stuart McMillan referred to.

16:55  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11699, in the name of Siobhian Brown, on the Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill. 16:30
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
I thank the members of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their thoughtful and helpful consideration of the Trusts and Succession (Scotland) B...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak in the debate and to confirm that the Scottish Conservatives will support the bill at decision time. As the minister outlined, this is ...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I thank the committee clerks and all those who have been involved in the bill. This is a technical bill, but it will have real impacts on people’s lives. I h...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
The victims of McClure’s state that most people who have been let down by McClure’s do not yet know that they are victims and that the situation is vastly un...
Rhoda Grant Lab
I absolutely agree with Bob Doris and I pay tribute to him for giving voice to the victims of McClure’s and inviting them to Parliament to speak to MSPs. I a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 16:46
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
First, I will touch on the McClure situation. I raised it in the committee because constituents, some of whom have been seriously affected, came to me with t...
Bob Doris SNP
Hear! Hear!
Stuart McMillan SNP
Thank you. I thank those who contributed to the committee’s scrutiny of the bill, whether in writing or by appearing before the committee during one of the ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by thanking the Scottish Law Commission for its detailed and technical work during more than a decade on the different elements of the bill. I am gra...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, I spoke in the stage 1 debate on the Trusts and Successions (Scotland) Bill in September. It is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Like hitting the microphone with your papers, there are various ways of gaining the Parliament’s attention. We now move to closing speeches. 16:58
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I think that the most recent attempt at awakening the chamber was more successful than your whacking the microphone earlier, Deputy Presiding Officer. Scott...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I hope that members will be able to hear some of the speech from where I am taking part in the debate this afternoon. I am pleased to be able to speak in tod...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
I ask Siobhian Brown to wind up. 17:04
Siobhian Brown SNP
I thank the members who have contributed to the debate. There is a general consensus that the law on trusts is outdated, and the changes that are proposed in...