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Meeting of the Parliament 23 November 2023

23 Nov 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

When I first became a member of Parliament for Dunfermline, I met the parents involved in something called the Diamond Association. They were the most ferocious group of parents I have ever met, and they had to be. They had to be ferocious because they had to fight every single day to get those who are now disabled adults—the parents were increasingly elderly—the rights that they deserved. That has stuck with me for ever, because they should not have had to fight so hard to get what they were entitled to.

However, the Scottish Liberal Democrats are not going to support the bill, because the evidence that the committee heard was overwhelming.

Members may ask: who would not want to support a bill that would improve the life chances of the people at the Diamond Association in Dunfermline, who I have just been talking about? That is why the committee went out of its way—probably quite unusually—to spend a lot of time trying to get the member and the Government to reach some kind of compromise on a way ahead.

Who would not want to support such a bill? It does not look good that we are rejecting, on the basis that I have outlined, a bill that is trying to improve the rights of disabled people through transition. Nevertheless, it is an embarrassment that it has taken so long for the Government to understand that the current system is not adequate. I know that the minister is new to her post, so the legacy is not really her responsibility, but this situation has been going on for years. It should not have taken Pam Duncan-Glancy introducing a bill to Parliament to get the Government to start producing a strategy, which might not come until the end of next year. That is a long time, and it should have been done before now.

It is shameful that we are in this position. To be honest, I am also embarrassed that the Parliament has not, until now, stepped up and done more.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11381, in the name of Pam Duncan-Glancy, on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulth...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. “Thank God for that; now I can be your mum again.” Those were my mum’s words when we heard that my transition to adult...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Sue Webber to speak on behalf of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. 15:23
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
I am pleased to be speaking on behalf of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. First, I thank the member in charge for introducing the bill, wh...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I was one of the members who had the privilege of being on that visit. Does Sue Webber agree that what was outstanding from that visit was the quality of the...
Sue Webber Con
I agree. We have found many times that the people who are having an impact and making positive changes to disabled people as they transition into adulthood a...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Can the member set out whether the committee has had confirmation of when the strategy will be published?
Sue Webber Con
I have not yet had that detail. Perhaps the Government can make that clear in its contributions during the debate. Make no mistake, we intend to return to t...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Ms Webber will remember that, in recognition of that fact, I said in the committee that I could amend the bill at stage 2 to take the part about diagnosis ou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give Ms Webber a wee bit of time back.
Sue Webber Con
The inability to define that formed part of the crux of the challenges that we faced regarding the accuracy of the financial memorandum. We know now—and we a...
The Minister for Children, Young People and Keeping the Promise (Natalie Don) SNP
I thank Pam Duncan-Glancy for the spotlight that her bill has shone on transitions to adulthood for disabled people and for setting out her personal experien...
Stephen Kerr Con
If the strategy is to be published by the end of next year, when, in the minister’s estimation, will there be a change in young people’s life experience as t...
Natalie Don SNP
We are already taking action now, through the statement of intent. We are listening to feedback and encouraging further action. As I said, the strategy, whic...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
I thank the minister for clarifying the publication date for the strategy. However, I still think that it is too late, and I echo the concerns of my colleagu...
Natalie Don SNP
I will come on to much of that later in my speech. If Pam Duncan-Glancy is happy for me to do so, I will set that out as I go along. I absolutely want things...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The definition of who will be covered by the bill is the same as that proposed by the Government in its strategy.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give the minister a bit of time back for interventions.
Natalie Don SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. With apologies to Pam Duncan-Glancy, as I said earlier, I will come on to those points. For now, I am just laying out my conce...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I have come late to the bill, consideration of which was well in train by the time I joined the Education, Children and Young People Committee right before t...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a great pleasure to open the debate on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill on behalf of Scottish Labour. ...
Stephen Kerr Con
I agree with everyone who has spoken about the bill’s laudable aims, but the question is how it will actually change the experience of the young people who a...
Martin Whitfield Lab
The Scottish Government would be required to have a strategy to explain. It would have to appoint a minister to take responsibility, and local authorities wo...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can allow time for the intervention, if the member wishes to take it.
Martin Whitfield Lab
Let me finish this. My apologies. The parent said: “strangely enough, this was where he successfully graduated with a 2:1”. If we fail our disabled young ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
When I first became a member of Parliament for Dunfermline, I met the parents involved in something called the Diamond Association. They were the most feroci...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Does the member agree that it is a shame that the first commitment that we had from the Government on the issue was in 2016, and we are still waiting?
Willie Rennie LD
That is one of the reasons why I am conflicted about the bill. I understand: legislation is permanent—it is there on the statute book and it creates a compul...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. I remind members that speeches are to be of up to six minutes, please. 16:00