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Meeting of the Parliament 28 February 2024

28 Feb 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Qualifications and Assessment
Kidd, Bill SNP Glasgow Anniesland Watch on SPTV

I welcome the publication of “It’s Our Future”, the final report of the independent review of qualifications and assessment. I agree

“that it is crucial that the Scottish Government ensures a fair and credible qualifications and assessment system that enhances learning and teaching and creates improved outcomes for young people”.

I also agree with the main thrust of the two amendments to the motion—that teachers, parents and pupils need to be at the heart of any reform. I sincerely believe that the Scottish Government has been, and continues to be, committed to ensuring that that is the case.

In September 2022, the Scottish Government launched a national discussion headed “Let’s talk education”. It invited all young people in Scotland aged from three to 18 to share their ideas, views and experiences around education. As part of the “Let’s talk education” strategy, resources were developed to promote discussion, and events took place all over Scotland, led by schools, community groups and third sector organisations. Those discussions, along with feedback from parents, carers and teachers, were vital in shaping the recommendations contained in “It’s Our Future”. Those recommendations will lead to the adoption of a Scottish diploma of achievement as a graduation certificate for all senior-phase educational settings, an end of exams in S4, a wider range of assessment methods using highers and advanced highers, and a digital profile for all learners to allow them to record personal achievements and to identify and plan future learning. Those changes start in 2024, and I agree that the reforms must be taken forward with the voices of young people and teachers at their heart.

I agree with Professor Hayward that another voice that plays a key role in education—one that is perhaps often overlooked but needs to be front and centre—is the voice of those involved in youth work. The professor said:

“Reform means bringing together all of our resources in education, and in youth work, and in other areas ... to focus these and to make best use of each individual components to give every learner the best possible life chance - and youth work has got to be a central part of that process.”

Mollie McGoran, chair of the Scottish Youth Parliament, said:

“Generally, for young people we’re seeing that youth work has so much value in the education space, in poverty prevention, in crime reduction, it’s really central to everything young people can get out of, what they should be able to get out of, their community.”

A national discussion carried out by YouthLink Scotland showed that 88 per cent of respondents wanted the skills that they had learned through youth work to be acknowledged alongside formal qualifications, and 87 per cent felt that young people should have access to youth work in school.

I believe that the value of youth work is clear, and I also believe that it needs to be further recognised and incorporated into any future reforms. In that respect, I am keen to hear from the cabinet secretary how we can include those voices on the journey. I am equally keen to explore the issue further with colleagues on the Education, Children and Young People Committee as we help to shape the exciting further reforms in the future.

16:45  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-12304, in the name of Jenny Gilruth, on the recommendations of the independent review of qualifications a...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
I am pleased to open this important debate on the recommendations of the independent review of qualifications and assessment. On Monday, I met teaching profe...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Does the cabinet secretary recognise that all the factors that she has set out are reasons for introducing reform rather than delaying it?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
The context that the member has addressed is important. However, as she knows, I built in an additional year, which has been important in allowing us to bett...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary postulates a fascinating idea. With regard to the maths specialist, we are looking at implementation not in this academic year and, pos...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
There are two elements to that, the first of which is curriculum improvement. The curriculum improvement that I announced in December will have a maths speci...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
When will the new qualifications body be up and running? Which cohort of pupils will take the exams that it will set?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I gave some of that information when I responded to the previous intervention from Pam Duncan-Glancy’s colleague. I will legislate for the creation of the ne...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome this debate on what has become known colloquially as the Hayward review. Arguably—I think that Ross Greer will pick up on this point later—we sho...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I agree that simply putting the project learning on to an already unequal system will increase that inequality. I am interested in Mr Kerr’s perspective on t...
Liam Kerr Con
That is an interesting point. The key to that goes back to what I was talking about earlier: we really need to interrogate what is going on here. We need to ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I start by thanking Professor Louise Hayward and her team, and all the teachers, pupils, support staff and parents, for the work that they did on the report....
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Earlier, I made the point that we currently have quite a cluttered approach to qualifications in the school sector. Should some of the subjects to which the ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
Those opportunities need to be available to children and young people, wherever they are. Some children and young people will flourish in those subjects in s...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I welcome the constructive and open discussion that we had last week with the cabinet secretary. I thought that that was quite a helpful session; she was muc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
As we move to the open debate, I remind all members who wish to speak to check that they have pressed their request-to-speak button. I advise members that ba...
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
The SNP Government has an excellent track record of investing in Scottish education. We have significantly more teachers per pupil than Tory-led England or L...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Fulton MacGregor SNP
No—I do not have enough time. Sorry. That has gone some way to reducing the poverty-related attainment gap, which is a massive issue in my constituency. At ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
We cannot afford to think that curriculum for excellence, which was introduced in 2010-11, will still be fit for purpose by the end of this century. Indeed, ...
Ivan McKee (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) SNP
The debate is hugely important and it is critical to get it right, not just for our young people and learners more widely but for the wider economy and socie...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
First, I welcome the fact that the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills has consulted those in the school and college teaching professions. That was th...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the publication of “It’s Our Future”, the final report of the independent review of qualifications and assessment. I agree “that it is crucial tha...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
I have a lot to cram into four minutes, but the cabinet secretary need not worry—I can write to her at length about this if required. I agree with Liam Kerr ...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
Please conclude, Mr Greer.
Ross Greer Green
We cannot do that again. We need to be brave and seize the opportunity to create a system that will serve young people in our society for decades. 16:49
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) SNP
I will use my time today to emphasise some of what Professor Hayward has said. First, I draw Parliament’s attention to the evidence that we received from her...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
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Martin Whitfield Lab
Does Oliver Mundell agree that youth work could feed in exceptionally well to those groups of people and provide support that they might not otherwise get?
Oliver Mundell Con
I acknowledge that. However, the very good youth work services in my patch, which are award winning and for which I have huge admiration, do not have the res...