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Meeting of the Parliament 21 February 2024

21 Feb 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Health Service Dentistry

Two years ago, the Scottish Conservatives held a debate called “Preventing the Collapse of NHS Dentistry in Scotland”. Two years on from that debate, NHS outcomes in Scotland have worsened, waiting times for all sorts of NHS treatment have increased, and here we are explaining that dentistry has got no better in that time.

It is clear that the SNP Government has failed to do what is necessary to restore NHS dentistry activity levels to pre-pandemic rates. That raises further concerns that rural and more deprived areas are likely to suffer disproportionately from negative oral health as a result. Indeed, 90 per cent of respondents to a recent BDA survey said that they believe that oral health inequalities in Scotland are on the rise.

Oral health can tell us a lot about our general health. Regular monitoring identifies and deals with problems early—not just oral issues but oral cancers. We heard from Willie Rennie about the catastrophic effect that late presentations can have on survival. There are also bacterial and fungal infections that can cause sepsis, and gum disease is linked to a higher risk of heart disease and dementia, both of which cause a disproportionate number of deaths in Scotland.

However, dentistry is becoming harder to access, with waiting times increasing. The 2023 BDA survey of general dental practitioners showed that nearly 60 per cent had reduced the amount of NHS work that they undertook since lockdown, and four in five said that they plan to reduce their commitment further in the year ahead. All the while, patient numbers are increasing. Dental practices are abandoning the NHS in droves for private practice, leaving many Scots without an NHS dentist. Failure to act risks sparking an exodus from the workforce that will leave families across Scotland losing access to NHS dentistry for good.

Many Scots are not having dental treatment, with almost half of the people registered with an NHS dentist in Scotland not having seen a dentist in the past two years and 1.2 million people not having had a dental examination or treatment in five years. The crisis in access to NHS dentistry in Scotland has resulted in many desperate patients taking matters into their own hands with DIY dentistry, or heading overseas for care, as we have heard from many members. Hearing that people are resorting to putting Super Glue on their dentures should be a wake-up call to all of us.

It is worrying that, on the number of children who have seen a dentist in the past two years, the gap between the most deprived and the least deprived children has widened. In 2021, 55 per cent of the most deprived children had seen a dentist, compared with 73 per cent of the least deprived children; in September 2022, that percentage had risen, and 56 per cent of children from the most deprived backgrounds had seen a dentist in the past two years, compared with 76 per cent of the least deprived children.

Let us remember that NHS dentistry in Scotland was in crisis long before Covid hit, so the SNP must get a grip on the situation and bring forward a credible plan to restore routine dental care and tackle the enormous backlog. I said earlier that Robert Donald, who is the chair of the BDA’s Scottish council, has warned that there could be a “wholesale exodus” of the profession from the NHS if ministers fail to make a “serious long-term commitment” to the sector.

For too long now, people have gone without access to full NHS dental services. To tackle that unprecedented challenge, dental practices need support from the Scottish Government. The new cabinet secretary, Mr Gray, and the SNP must offer more solutions. Healthcare staff and patients have been repeatedly let down.

The recovery plan is not fit for purpose. We want a plan that is clear to deliver a modern and efficient local NHS. For dentistry specifically, that means an end to drill and fill; it means the prioritisation of prevention, and a plan that reflects modern dentistry.

16:41  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-12215, in the name of Willie Rennie, on the crisis in NHS dentistry. I would be grateful if members who w...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
In case members have not had enough of me, I will speak in this debate, too. In preparation, I asked for people’s experiences of NHS dentistry. I had a tidal...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Can you confirm that the motion has been moved?
Willie Rennie LD
That was a rookie error. I move, That the Parliament believes that there is a crisis in NHS dentistry; considers that it is deeply concerning that people a...
The Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery, Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
The previous debate focused on the importance of care being delivered in our communities through, and in partnership with, general practices. This debate is...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary speaks about the preventative agenda being foremost in his thoughts, but how can dental treatment be preventative when there are two ye...
Neil Gray SNP
I will come on to talk about some of the detail of the work that we are doing with the industry to provide greater capacity, so that Sue Webber can be reassu...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Can the cabinet secretary explain why private sector dentistry is not facing the same pressure as NHS dentistry, post-pandemic?
Neil Gray SNP
There are pressures across the dentistry sector. I do not think that it would be fair to say that any one part is facing the pressures alone. That is why we ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, cabinet secretary, you must conclude.
Neil Gray SNP
I move amendment S6M-12215.2, to leave out from first “believes” to end and insert: “recognises the significant challenges in dental services, compounded by...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I should say that we are very tight for time this afternoon—we have no time in hand. I call Sandesh Gulhane to speak to and move amendment S6M-12215.3. You h...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests—I am a practising NHS general practitioner. There we have it from the cabinet secretary: e...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I take this opportunity to welcome the new cabinet secretary to his place. It was remiss of me not to do so during the previous debate, but I do so now. I al...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. I call Liam McArthur, to be followed by David Torrance. 16:28
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
A year ago, in a similar Scottish Liberal Democrat debate, I suggested that any objective analysis of NHS dentistry across Scotland could only conclude that ...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
We all know that Opposition parties do not like talking about Brexit, but given that approximately 60 per cent of the dental workforce is European, to simply...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the member give way?
David Torrance SNP
I am short of time.
Willie Rennie LD
I will be very brief.
David Torrance SNP
No, thank you. It is fair to say that the rate of NHS registration is also significantly higher in Scotland than in the rest of the United Kingdom, with mor...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Two years ago, the Scottish Conservatives held a debate called “Preventing the Collapse of NHS Dentistry in Scotland”. Two years on from that debate, NHS out...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
As Willie Rennie highlighted, we are seeing more people struggling to get access to NHS dentistry in Fife. David Torrance can defend the Scottish Government ...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
As I did in the previous debate, I thank all the professionals working in the sector for their hard work. I also thank the BDA for its briefing ahead of the ...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
Like the offices of all other members in this debate, my constituency office receives a huge number of contacts from people who present with very serious pro...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Fergus Ewing is right to talk about the issue of potential bonds on new dental graduates, but is he also interested, as the Liberal Democrats are, in how eas...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I totally agree with that point. Unnecessary bureaucratic imposts are one of the things that are really holding Scotland back across the range. Incidentally,...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to winding-up speeches. 16:53
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to close the second debate for Scottish Labour. As before, I thank the Liberal Democrats for bringing this important debate to the chamber in th...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Shocking new figures that were released yesterday have revealed the scale of the crisis in Scottish dentistry. In December last year, the number of patients ...