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Meeting of the Parliament 21 February 2024

21 Feb 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Health Service Dentistry

A year ago, in a similar Scottish Liberal Democrat debate, I suggested that any objective analysis of NHS dentistry across Scotland could only conclude that the sector was in crisis. At the time, the then health secretary—now the First Minister—was writing to dentists, telling them how pleased he was about how well the sector was performing. It was the sort of tone deaf ministerial complacency that had dentists around the country clutching their drills more tightly and possibly even dreaming of the emergency extraction work that they would love to perform.

Twelve months on, and despite changes that were introduced by the Government last November, the BDA insists that NHS dentistry has been

“in crisis for a generation”

and that the action taken by ministers falls short of the root-and-branch change that is needed. Willie Rennie vividly highlighted the painful consequences of that failure by Government to get to grips with the scale of the challenge that the sector faces. I will use my time to illustrate how the crisis in dentistry is playing out in the islands that I represent.

As the BDA briefing for the debate makes clear, the registration rate for adult patients in Orkney stands at 50 per cent, which is the lowest rate in the country. That is no great surprise, despite the Herculean efforts of local dentists and staff. It reflects what I have been seeing in my casework over recent years. That figure needs to be considered in the context of the participation rate—contact with a dentist in the past two years—which, last summer, stood at 50 per cent of all those who are registered. The fact that that figure is lower than the figure in 2021, when we were in the midst of a pandemic, should flush out any residual complacency in St Andrew’s house.

NHS Orkney’s dental lead, Steven Johnston, has confirmed to me that, between 2020 and 2022, the participation rate among children plummeted from 87 per cent to 57 per cent. Although overall dental hygiene among children in Orkney remains good, there must be a serious risk of problems being stored up in the longer term. Mr Johnston has also spoken about a concerning shift in activity from the NHS to the private sector. Again, that trend is borne out by my mailbag and it undermines any claim that the Government might make that even basic dental provision in Scotland is free for all at the point of delivery.

Addressing that will require the wider reforms that were set out by Willie Rennie, as well as a sustainable funding model. Changes to date may have stemmed the exodus of dentists from NHS practices, but, as one local dentist told me this week, it will not reopen lists to new registrations. The low-margin, high-volume funding system does not work in island and rural settings. Certain treatments are, de facto, loss making unless they are delivered in high numbers, which simply cannot be achieved in places such as Orkney.

On recruitment and retention—where, again, specific challenges exist in island and rural areas—there is a lack of clarity on the support that is available. I previously raised the issue in Parliament with the minister and was told that support is being provided where it is most needed. However, NHS Orkney and the remote and rural directors of dentistry group still appear to be awaiting details of the financial allowances. In the meantime, the loss of the fully-funded remote and rural fellowship is being keenly felt. In the past, that scheme was well used by dentists in Orkney, even allowing one dentist to go on to provide orthodontic services prior to 2021. There is now no provider of orthodontics locally, which is leading constituents to contact me to highlight the impact on their children, for whom there are mental health as well as oral health implications. A replacement for the fellowship scheme to improve recruitment and retention in island and rural areas is urgently needed.

The crisis in dentistry persists, and more urgent and concerted action is needed by the Government. I urge the Parliament to support the motion in the name of Willie Rennie.

16:32  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-12215, in the name of Willie Rennie, on the crisis in NHS dentistry. I would be grateful if members who w...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
In case members have not had enough of me, I will speak in this debate, too. In preparation, I asked for people’s experiences of NHS dentistry. I had a tidal...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Can you confirm that the motion has been moved?
Willie Rennie LD
That was a rookie error. I move, That the Parliament believes that there is a crisis in NHS dentistry; considers that it is deeply concerning that people a...
The Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery, Health and Social Care (Neil Gray) SNP
The previous debate focused on the importance of care being delivered in our communities through, and in partnership with, general practices. This debate is...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary speaks about the preventative agenda being foremost in his thoughts, but how can dental treatment be preventative when there are two ye...
Neil Gray SNP
I will come on to talk about some of the detail of the work that we are doing with the industry to provide greater capacity, so that Sue Webber can be reassu...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Can the cabinet secretary explain why private sector dentistry is not facing the same pressure as NHS dentistry, post-pandemic?
Neil Gray SNP
There are pressures across the dentistry sector. I do not think that it would be fair to say that any one part is facing the pressures alone. That is why we ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, cabinet secretary, you must conclude.
Neil Gray SNP
I move amendment S6M-12215.2, to leave out from first “believes” to end and insert: “recognises the significant challenges in dental services, compounded by...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I should say that we are very tight for time this afternoon—we have no time in hand. I call Sandesh Gulhane to speak to and move amendment S6M-12215.3. You h...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests—I am a practising NHS general practitioner. There we have it from the cabinet secretary: e...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I take this opportunity to welcome the new cabinet secretary to his place. It was remiss of me not to do so during the previous debate, but I do so now. I al...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. I call Liam McArthur, to be followed by David Torrance. 16:28
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
A year ago, in a similar Scottish Liberal Democrat debate, I suggested that any objective analysis of NHS dentistry across Scotland could only conclude that ...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
We all know that Opposition parties do not like talking about Brexit, but given that approximately 60 per cent of the dental workforce is European, to simply...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the member give way?
David Torrance SNP
I am short of time.
Willie Rennie LD
I will be very brief.
David Torrance SNP
No, thank you. It is fair to say that the rate of NHS registration is also significantly higher in Scotland than in the rest of the United Kingdom, with mor...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Two years ago, the Scottish Conservatives held a debate called “Preventing the Collapse of NHS Dentistry in Scotland”. Two years on from that debate, NHS out...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
As Willie Rennie highlighted, we are seeing more people struggling to get access to NHS dentistry in Fife. David Torrance can defend the Scottish Government ...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
As I did in the previous debate, I thank all the professionals working in the sector for their hard work. I also thank the BDA for its briefing ahead of the ...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
Like the offices of all other members in this debate, my constituency office receives a huge number of contacts from people who present with very serious pro...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Fergus Ewing is right to talk about the issue of potential bonds on new dental graduates, but is he also interested, as the Liberal Democrats are, in how eas...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I totally agree with that point. Unnecessary bureaucratic imposts are one of the things that are really holding Scotland back across the range. Incidentally,...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to winding-up speeches. 16:53
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to close the second debate for Scottish Labour. As before, I thank the Liberal Democrats for bringing this important debate to the chamber in th...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Shocking new figures that were released yesterday have revealed the scale of the crisis in Scottish dentistry. In December last year, the number of patients ...