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Meeting of the Parliament 23 January 2024

23 Jan 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Breastfeeding

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this important debate, and I thank Jenny Minto for securing chamber time for it.

We have come a long way in this country in terms of our approach to breastfeeding, which was laid out in the Breastfeeding etc (Scotland) Act 2005. That legislation represented a step change in our attitudes and society’s attitudes to breastfeeding, which until then was still shrouded in stigma and was, at times, regressive.

Even after that legislation was passed, I came up against that stigma personally, when my wife and I went to a bar with our newborn son, Finn, some 15 years ago—a couple of years after the 2005 act was passed, or a little bit later. We were going to have some food with friends, so we rang up the bar and asked whether it was okay to bring a child in, and it said that children were welcome until 8.30. That was until Gill started to breastfeed Finn. We were made so uncomfortable that a member of staff suggested that the advice that we had been given was wrong and that we had to leave. We phoned the bar again later and were advised that there was nothing wrong with the advice that had been given originally. We could see that we had just made waiting staff feel uncomfortable.

Breastfeeding has an important role to play in children’s health outcomes. We know, for instance, that it helps to protect children from a range of infections and illnesses such as asthma, diabetes, obesity and heart disease. We also know that it has a role to play in protecting mothers from ovarian cancer and breast cancer. There are, of course, all the added financial advantages to families, who can save on the cost of formula.

We should be proud of the distance that we have travelled in this country. It is a point of pride that we were the first country to legally protect breastfeeding in that legislation back in 2005. It was taken through Parliament by Elaine Smith of Labour and backed by Liberal Democrat-Labour coalition votes. The 2005 act made it a criminal offence to deliberately prevent someone from or stop them feeding a child under the age of two in a public place in Scotland.

Although we have come that distance, there is still work to be done to ensure that every mother has the support that they need to make the best and most informed choice for themselves and their baby. A recent infant feeding survey found that 65 per cent of babies born in Scotland were breastfed for at least some time after birth, and that 46 per cent of babies are still being breastfed after the six-to-eight-week mark.

What is notable about that survey is that mothers living in more affluent areas are more likely to breastfeed than those in deprived areas. That is a health inequality. We can see that there is also a disparity when we look at how health boards are performing in supporting mothers to breastfeed. Government must give health boards the support that they need to close the gaps, with a particular emphasis on those less-affluent areas. We cannot have a postcode lottery when it comes to giving children the best start in life.

It is also important to say that the decision whether to breastfeed is always solely the mother’s. Women must be given all the information about the benefits of breastfeeding and be provided with all the advice and in-person support, if needed, to help them to breastfeed, if they so choose. However, that support must always be support—never pressure.

Having a child is a life-changing event. For many people, sadly, that change is not as straightforward as they had assumed it might be or as we would wish it to be for them. The postpartum period is a very vulnerable time for new mothers, and some women find it more challenging than others to feed their baby. Breastfeeding can also become more difficult because of infection or mastitis. It is therefore vital that, when we talk about the benefits of breastfeeding, we do so in a way that does not stigmatise any mother who is unable to breastfeed or chooses not to.

There are cultural aspects to breastfeeding as well.

It is vital that any mother who struggles with postnatal depression is given all the support and care that they need to cope. It is deeply concerning that only 14 per cent of Scottish health boards met a UK-wide standard that was devised by the Royal College of Psychiatrists for specialist perinatal mental health support. That is an issue that I have raised in the chamber before.

Scottish Liberal Democrats were proud to be the first party in this Parliament to set out a comprehensive and dedicated strategy for improving the detection and treatment of maternal mental health issues to bolster our perinatal mental health offer, and it was gratifying when the Government adopted much of that blueprint. However, despite the good work that has been done in that area and the good progress that has been made, there sadly continues to be a postcode lottery for perinatal mental health services in Scotland. Women across Scotland cannot afford the Government resting on its laurels on the issue.

Protecting mothers and giving newborn babies the best possible start in life has to be an absolute priority for everyone in the chamber—not just the Government, but the entire Parliament.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11935, in the name of Jenni Minto, on celebrating and supporting breastfeeding in Scotland. I invite memb...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
I am delighted to open this debate to celebrate and support breastfeeding in Scotland. As the Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health, I am clear that...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I have been listening to what the minister is saying because I am really interested in this subject. In particular, take-up of breastfeeding tends to be lowe...
Jenni Minto SNP
I will come to that idea later in my speech. We have done more than just research; we have put things in place, including family nurse partnerships. The evi...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Jenni Minto SNP
I would like to make progress. Using human milk as a bridge to breastfeeding means that Scotland is following international best practice. Protecting, promo...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I admit that progress has been made. However, the Royal College of Midwives has said that midwifery is in crisis, due to turnover. In order to improve the cu...
Jenni Minto SNP
It is clear that the Scottish Government recognises that, and that it has helped to increase the number of midwives. Yesterday, I spoke to two in my constitu...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Jenni Minto SNP
I am sorry; I must continue. Seeing other women breastfeeding in communities, and hearing breastfeeding being discussed and promoted as part of a normal lif...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Members may wish to know that we have a fair amount of time in hand this afternoon and that, if possible, they will receive time back for any interventions. ...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
The benefits of breastfeeding are well known, but the difficulties in establishing and sustaining it for mother and baby are not widely recognised. For many ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I invite Ms White to move her amendment.
Tess White Con
I move amendment S6M-11935.2, to insert at end: “; recognises the benefits of breastfeeding to both the child and the mother, as well as the challenges that...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I have a personal interest in this important topic, having many years ago trained as a dietician and met many mothers and babies over the years. It is also a...
Rachael Hamilton Con
My intervention is about the breastfeeding act that Carol Mochan mentions. I breastfed three children but never in my time saw anyone use that act to protect...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Carol Mochan, I can give you the time back.
Carol Mochan Lab
Thank you very much for that intervention. It is a very good point—time passes and we perhaps forget some of the legislation that has been passed when we cou...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this important debate, and I thank Jenny Minto for securing chamber time for it. We ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 15:10
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to speak in today’s Scottish Government debate on celebrating and supporting breastfeeding. Breast milk is the perfect source of nutrition for...
Rachael Hamilton Con
I note with interest the member’s reference to the baby box. What is in it to support women to breastfeed?
Stephanie Callaghan SNP
I hope to hear the detail on that. I asked a parliamentary question about that and the minister confirmed the position. Not too long ago, most of our granni...
Meghan Gallacher Con
I commend Stephanie Callaghan for her work on breastfeeding. I want to mention my experience in relation to health visitors. My daughter has not had all of h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back for that intervention, Stephanie Callaghan.
Stephanie Callaghan SNP
I think that that is a little bit off topic, but we definitely need to work really hard to do that. Not every mum will succeed at breastfeeding, but there i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you very much, Ms Callaghan. I remind members that we have a bit of time in hand, so anyone taking interventions should get the time back. 15:17
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Today’s debate focuses on the important topic of breastfeeding. Colleagues from all parties have recognised its importance in their speeches and have been sh...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Rachael Hamilton Con
Yes.