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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee 18 January 2024

18 Jan 2024 · S6 · Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Item of business
BBC Annual Report
Steve Carson (BBC Scotland) Watch on SPTV
It is a pleasure to be here, before the Scottish Parliament’s committee with responsibility for culture, and I am delighted to have alongside me the BBC’s chief financial officer, Alan Dickson, and the head of commissioning for BBC Scotland, Louise Thornton. The year under review in the BBC’s annual report and accounts, as laid before the Scottish Parliament, runs from April 2022 to March 2023. That period included the death of Her Majesty the Queen at Balmoral, when BBC Scotland’s teams were central to the coverage of events for our audiences at home and around the world. During the time under review, we delivered high-impact content, including the powerful drama “Mayflies” and the creative documentary account of Brandon Lee’s story in “My Old School”, both of which went on to win awards from the British Academy of Film and Television Arts. We invested in content from across Scotland, including the drama series “Granite Harbour”, which was based in the north-east, and “An Clò Mòr”, a Gaelic-language family drama set in the Harris tweed industry, series 2 of which started this week on BBC Alba. I would like to mention a few highlights that are beyond the scope of the time period covered by this annual report but that may be covered in our next annual report and accounts. The BBC’s “Across the UK” strategy has seen an increase in network commissions and co-commissions, through Louise Thornton, including “Shetland”, with the successful introduction of a new lead; “Vigil”; and “The Traitors”, which was the biggest new series for young audiences across all BBC titles last year—as you know, its second series is currently on air. Radio 1’s “Big Weekend” came from Dundee in May. According to Dundee City Council, its estimated economic impact on the local economy was £3.7 million, which does not include the BBC spend or employment at the event. Audiences in Scotland responded very positively both in person at the event and through listening and viewing, as we know from iPlayer figures. Other key moments included the hosting of the UCI cycling world championships in August, which was one of the biggest events that Scotland has ever staged. BBC Scotland was the media hub for global coverage. Our news teams produced live online coverage for all BBC outlets when we were hit by storm Babet, in October. Since then, of course, there have been several storms. It also feels appropriate to note the regeneration of one Scottish Dr Who into another Scottish Dr Who in what was the 60th anniversary year of the world’s longest-running science fiction show. Throughout 2023, we celebrated the centenary of the BBC in Scotland: last March, we marked 100 years since the first broadcast from Glasgow; we marked the first broadcast from Aberdeen; and, last December—showing our long-term commitment to the language—we marked the first broadcast in Gaelic. This year, we will celebrate the centenaries of BBC learning and education, as well as our first broadcasts from Edinburgh and Dundee. We know just how central our partnership with Screen Scotland is to growing the creative economy. That includes shared training and development initiatives and joint investment in content on titles such as “Guilt” and “Granite Harbour”. Screen Scotland’s recent assessment of the economic value of the screen sector in Scotland noted that the BBC’s content spend on TV production in Scotland represented fully three quarters of all public service broadcaster expenditure here during the year that was surveyed. However, there is no doubt that we are operating under tight financial conditions. Since 2010, the BBC’s income has reduced in real terms by more than 30 per cent, and, as every household and every business does, we face the inflationary pressures of rising costs. We share with members of the committee the common purpose of public service. For us, that means continuing to evolve and adapt our output, supporting the creative sector to make and deliver content in ways in which, and on platforms on which, our audience want to consume it. All of that is set against a competitive and changing media landscape. We know that the licence fee is a privilege. That unique funding model ensures that we create BBC Bitesize content that is bespoke to Scotland’s curriculum; Gaelic services for speakers and new learners; our all-important news, weather and travel information for Scotland; new dramas that are filmed here as part of Scotland’s vibrant creative sector; support and coverage of a wide range of music genres in Scotland; and broad coverage of Scottish sport, through which we can look forward to following Scottish athletes at the Paris Olympics and the men’s football team at the Euros this summer. We can share more with you, I hope. Louise Thornton, Alan Dickson and I look forward to discussing the annual report and accounts, and associated matters, with the committee this morning.

In the same item of business

The Convener SNP
Our second agenda item is our annual evidence session on the annual report of the BBC, which has a firm place in the committee’s calendar. We are delighted t...
Steve Carson (BBC Scotland)
It is a pleasure to be here, before the Scottish Parliament’s committee with responsibility for culture, and I am delighted to have alongside me the BBC’s ch...
The Convener SNP
Thank you for that introduction—and for allowing me to host a showing of “Dr Who” at Christmas time at the Parliament on behalf of the BBC. It was enjoyed by...
Alan Dickson (BBC)
I will start by offering a few comments, after which I will ask Steve Carson to pitch in. We are proud of the fact that it is a record year for BBC spend in...
The Convener SNP
Thank you for that. Wales and Northern Ireland are sitting at 111 per cent. Does that additional investment come from a UK pot of money?
Alan Dickson
Again, it will be a mixture of those two factors of how many network commissions are going through Wales and Northern Ireland and the local content. The infr...
Steve Carson
I will put a little more flesh on the bones of those numbers. On that metric that is published in the annual report and accounts of licence fee raised and sp...
The Convener SNP
That is helpful. Thank you very much. We will move to questions from colleagues, and I will bring in Keith Brown first.
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
The total expenditure in the UK is around £6 billion, more than a third of which is raised from sources other than the licence fee. What is the equivalent fi...
Alan Dickson
Steve Carson or Louise Thornton might want to talk about that. The commercial side of the business, which is growing—it has surpassed £2 billion for the very...
Steve Carson
BBC Scotland is clearly funded by the licence fee and is on the public service side of the BBC. Within that, we have several mechanisms for bringing in incom...
Louise Thornton (BBC Scotland)
The way in which my commissioning team is set up is that each commissioner looks after a certain genre and we have point-to-point relationships with the genr...
Alan Dickson
It is true to say that a relatively small percentage of the £2 billion commercial income that the BBC generates is derived from Scotland.
Keith Brown SNP
I expect that it is, but, for the committee, in trying to come to an idea about the fairness of the apportionment of funds, it is an important figure. If it ...
Alan Dickson
Previous directors general have appeared before the committee, Mr Brown, so I imagine that—
Keith Brown SNP
It was not so much about the committee. The meeting that happened at Westminster was for a particular political party. Is that courtesy extended to all parties?
Alan Dickson
I am sure that the director general would be open to communication. If there are any issues or concerns to put to him, I am sure that he would respond accord...
Keith Brown SNP
I will make one last point. The table that we have says that the spend as a percentage of the licence fee collected is 86 per cent. You referred to that figu...
Alan Dickson
No. First and foremost, we always look at our approach and strategy to address the need to serve audiences across the UK, particularly in Scotland, as well a...
Steve Carson
There are a few things to unpack in your question, Mr Brown. On the licence fee raised and spent, we would all agree that if every nation spent 100 per cent ...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Good morning, and thank you for your comments so far. The record spend is very welcome and shows the commitment that is there. There have been some real suc...
Steve Carson
When it comes to the broader picture in relation to whether we are organised and have the right balance of resources across our services—TV, radio, online an...
Alexander Stewart Con
Your new concepts, BBC iPlayer and BBC Sounds, seem to be another way to capture people who come back to watch or listen to content at another time. That is ...
Steve Carson
That is another reason why we are well set for the future. If we look back at the creation of the Scotland channel, it was always conceived as being what we ...
Louise Thornton
That is absolutely the right question. We know that we are in a very competitive market, but we are also lucky to have a huge amount of tracking data, which ...
Steve Carson
I can give another example of our approach to working across services—one that shows how we are positioned in both places. You may be aware of a “Disclosure”...
The Convener SNP
Were those online articles being read on the news section of the BBC website?
Steve Carson
BBC News Scotland has its own home page and we have indexes for all parts of Scotland, but that is also available to audiences around the UK.
The Convener SNP
Thank you. Neil Bibby has some questions.
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Good morning to the panel. You spoke earlier about growth online and of news online in particular. While that is welcome—that is how society is moving forwar...