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Meeting of the Parliament 17 January 2024

17 Jan 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Health Service Waiting Times

It is a pleasure to speak in this very short debate on Scotland’s health service. It is important to recognise at the outset the challenges that we face and the successes that have been delivered in the on-going work that the cabinet secretary has outlined, including the fact that Scotland is the only part of the UK that has avoided strikes in our NHS. The service faces challenges, not least the ageing population, inflation in the health sector and the impact of Brexit on workforce availability, but also many others.

It is important to use the short time that we have available, not to, as the Opposition does, throw random talking points into the debate but to make clear proposals for specific improvements in addition to the work that is already being done. In the short time that I have available, I want to focus on a few of those.

First, I want to talk about the adoption of technology, including process improvement, and the leverage of the great work of Scotland’s fabulous life science sector. For example, only 1.5 per cent of operations across Scotland’s NHS are being delivered by robotics, which can deliver higher quality and increased efficiency. I ask the cabinet secretary to look more thoroughly at that, as well as at, for example, the use of artificial intelligence in radiography, sensor technology in falls monitoring and prevention and increased digitisation, not to mention Scotland’s great expertise in booking systems, digital dentistry and many other areas. I pay tribute to the great work that has been done by the accelerated national innovation adoption pathway—ANIA—but so much more can be done in that space.

Secondly, there is the roll-out of that technology and best practice across the health service and health boards across the country, and the once-for-Scotland approach. I know that work is being done there, but I ask the Government to evaluate the potential savings and improvements that could be made so that best practice in each health board is adopted across all health boards.

Thirdly, it was good to have a conversation on shifting resources in yesterday’s evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery, Health and Social Care at the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. We know that prevention is significantly cheaper than cure, working on the Christie principles, and it would be great to see more happening in that space.

We know that there has to be a shift from management layers towards the front line and from high-cost to lower-cost interventions. I ask the Government to take forward some detailed work to help us to understand how we can better measure the resources that are applied in each of those areas and get under the skin of the health budget, so that we know what the potential savings would be and what improvements could be made by moving towards a more front-line service that focuses on prevention rather than on a downstream cure.

The next area is structures. A big-bang solution would be time consuming and expensive, but I do not doubt that there are many opportunities for the duplication of services by health boards in back-office management, administration and bureaucracy to be removed and for health boards to work closer together. We are looking for opportunities for consolidation where it makes sense to take out costs from the back office and reapply them to front-line services.

I also ask that the single-authority model be given more serious attention in certain areas of the country. I know that that is favoured particularly by smaller local authorities, and that it allows for a much more efficient service delivery model. We are looking to join the dots where possible and make delivery easier. There was an example of that in my constituency of Glasgow recently, concerning funding for community link workers. Different parts of the system were unable to agree to continue to fund that cost-effective intervention until the cabinet secretary stepped in to make it happen.

Finally, it is important to recognise the Government’s absolute commitment to the fundamental principles of the health service. This publicly provided service is free at the point of use, and we must resist all efforts towards its privatisation, as has unfortunately happened in other parts of the UK.

16:44  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11874, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on ending long waits in the national health service. 16:01
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Scotland saw in the new year with accident and emergency departments in utter disarray as thousands of people—the sick and the injured—experienced long and d...
The Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery, Health and Social Care (Michael Matheson) SNP
As a Government, we remain focused on ensuring that our health service continues to recover from the long-term effects of the pandemic. Scotland is not uniqu...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Michael Matheson SNP
I will if the member allows me to make progress first. The number of waits of more than 78 weeks reduced by 30.1 per cent as of September last year, and 34 ...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Is it not the case that you promised to end those waits, not simply reduce them, and that, by your own measure, you have failed?
The Presiding Officer NPA
Please always speak through the chair.
Michael Matheson SNP
As I have set out, the reality is that we are making substantial progress, but, clearly, more needs to be done and we are determined to do that. I know that...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Michael Matheson SNP
I need to make progress, given the limited time, I am afraid. For example, since 2021, we have invested £8.6 million in programmes through the Centre for Su...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a practising NHS general practitioner. There we have it: everything is fine h...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
In the Borders, people are having to wait 39 weeks for their first appointment for CAMHS treatment. The Government should apologise for the appalling lack of...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
I could not agree more. Our kids are suffering and our SNP Government is not looking after them. Let us look at the NHS estate. The SNP’s manifesto pledged...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am very grateful to Jackie Baillie for bringing the motion to Parliament. Before I begin my remarks, I congratulate her on her investiture as a dame at the...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:22
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This issue is perhaps the one that I hear most about from constituents across South Scotland, and that is why it is essential that it is given fair hearing h...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which shows that I hold a bank nurse contract with NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. As some...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Once again, it was the pandemic that did it. That is the sole reason that we have heard from the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care for the crisis ...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
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Clare Haughey SNP
Will the member give way?
Annie Wells Con
I do not have time. I have a lot to say and I am in my final minute. The consequences of those systemic problems are that our excellent NHS staff cannot del...
Ivan McKee (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) SNP
It is a pleasure to speak in this very short debate on Scotland’s health service. It is important to recognise at the outset the challenges that we face and ...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate Dame Jackie Baillie on the honours that she received today. I am disappointed that she did not wear the hat to the chamber. When Opposition p...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
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The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to winding-up speeches. 16:53
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
The complacency of the SNP Government as the NHS spirals is staggering. As we have heard in the debate, from waiting times to workforce planning the NHS is i...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Always speak through the chair, please.
Tess White Con
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Clare Haughey SNP
Will the member give way?
The Presiding Officer NPA
The member must conclude.