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Meeting of the Parliament 10 January 2024

10 Jan 2024 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Asylum Policy and Legislation (United Kingdom Government)
Adam, Karen SNP Banffshire and Buchan Coast Watch on SPTV

Article 14 of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights reads:

“Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.”

The United Kingdom played its part in drafting that declaration, which, today, the UK Government sadly undermines at each and every turn. It is important to remind ourselves, often, and without apology, of the context in which the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was drafted—a world that was riven by violence and hatred, and full of displaced people and those fleeing persecution in the chaos that followed a war that we must, again and again, commit ourselves never to repeat.

As we look on from Scotland at the conflicts in Europe and the middle east, it is hard not to ponder the solemn reality that it could be us, our children and our friends, or, as is the case with the First Minister, our own relatives, who are affected. History tells us that these conflicts do not occur in a vacuum, and that we must play our part as a responsible member of the global community.

It is heartbreaking to witness the UK Government continuing its vindictive campaign against those who need our help most, despite what we see happening in the world right now. I want to take time today to dispel some of the myths that are peddled by the UK Government and its Conservative defenders here, in Scotland.

They say that we do not have enough room, but let us look at that a bit more closely. Many of Scotland’s communities, particularly in rural Scotland, already experience acute depopulation and labour market challenges, in part because of Brexit and the end of freedom of movement. Scotland is far from full, and we are ready to take our share of those seeking refuge, but we are unable to do so due to the fact that this is a reserved matter.

The UK Government must cease its culture wars, fulfil its international obligations and invest in tackling the asylum backlog. Providing additional staff and ensuring more humane and efficient processes could mean a system that is fit for purpose. Instead, it has spent hundreds of millions of pounds on its inhumane and illegal Rwanda policy, which has resulted in what, precisely? Not a single thing. It is an abhorrent and immoral waste of taxpayers’ money.

The Conservatives tell us that we are being overrun, often in the most inhumane ways. Former Prime Minister and now Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron once referred to

“a swarm of people coming across the Mediterranean.”

Sadly, he is not alone. A former Home Secretary has referred to migrants as a “hurricane” and an “invasion”.

The Conservatives are trying to normalise such dehumanising language. Othering the most vulnerable in society is one of the oldest and, in my view, most despicable tricks in the Tory handbook. That will not wash here, in Scotland, and we will see that reflected in the upcoming general election, when we will see an end to the Scottish Conservatives.

The Conservatives ask us how we will pay for all the migrants. People fleeing conflict and persecution and seeking asylum on our shores have much to offer our communities, culturally and economically. It is therefore a shame that the UK Government continues to deny those seeking asylum the right to work and to contribute to our country.

As is noted in the “Building a New Scotland” paper that looks specifically at migration, we know that leaving the European Union has cut off a valuable and ready supply of workers to fill key posts. There have been fewer births than deaths registered in Scotland since 2011, so it is clear that we need inward migration to ensure that our communities are vibrant, diverse and thriving and to support local economies and the public sector.

Last month, I met fisheries stakeholders to discuss the detrimental impact that the proposed UK Government immigration rules would have on the seafood processing sector. During that meeting, there were numerous examples of seafood processing businesses—some of which are based in my constituency—comprised of workforces of up to 90 per cent migrant workers. The one-size-fits-all, Britain-bursting-at-the-seams narrative simply does not ring true in Scotland. With a hostile governing party and an indifferent Opposition, it is clear that the only way for Scotland to have the levers to reverse projected population decline is in an independent country.

Although the Conservatives scream, “Stop the boats!”, and “dream” and “obsess” about front pages full of planes taking off to Rwanda, Scotland has a different dream; our dream is for an asylum system that is founded on equality, opportunity and community. Those three words are a bedrock for the Scottish Government in all that it does. I remind members that that could be us seeking asylum. If it were, would we not want those from whom we were seeking asylum to treat us with the fairness, dignity and respect that we deserve and to be treated as we would wish to be treated ourselves?

15:36  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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The Minister for Equalities, Migration and Refugees (Emma Roddick) SNP
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Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am sure that the minister will want to note that that suggestion, which came from civil servants, was not taken forward by the UK Labour Government and was...
Emma Roddick SNP
I will certainly be pleasantly surprised if a Labour Government comes in at the next UK election and makes big changes compared to the UK Government that we ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I gently remind members who are looking to participate in the debate but have not yet pressed their request-to-speak button to do so now or as soon as possib...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
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Emma Roddick SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you the time back for the intervention, Mr Briggs.
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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The Minister for Culture, Europe and International Development (Christina McKelvie) SNP
Will the member give way?
Miles Briggs Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that we have a bit of time in hand, so members who take interventions will get the time back. 15:16
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will the member give way?
Paul O’Kane Lab
I will finish this point and then I will give way. It is disingenuous to say that there would be no change with a Labour Government.
Donald Cameron Con
Would a future Labour Government—were the hypothetical situation to arise in which we had a Labour Government—process applications abroad?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Paul O’Kane Lab
I am very sorry, Deputy Presiding Officer. I blame Yvette Cooper rather than myself, but I take the point, which was well made. I apologise to any colleagues...
Emma Roddick SNP
Will the member give way?
Paul O’Kane Lab
I will.
Emma Roddick SNP
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Paul O’Kane Lab
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Before we move to the open debate, I give a timely reminder to members who are participating in the debate that they should remain for opening and closing sp...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
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Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
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Donald Cameron Con
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