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Meeting of the Parliament 21 December 2023

21 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Marie Curie (75th Anniversary)
MacDonald, Gordon SNP Edinburgh Pentlands Watch on SPTV

I, too, thank Bob Doris for bringing the motion to Parliament for debate and Marie Curie for its 75 years of providing palliative care across Scotland and the UK.

The first Marie Curie home in the UK was opened in 1952 at the Hill of Tarvit in Cupar, Fife. Since then, its UK hospice network has grown, with nine hospices now offering in-patient and out-patient care and a broad range of day therapies to meet the needs of individual patients.

As others have said, the two Scottish hospices are in Glasgow and in my constituency of Edinburgh Pentlands, at Fairmilehead. I have visited that hospice on many occasions, the most recent time being only two weeks ago, when I took part in the lights to remember event.

In the past year, the Marie Curie Edinburgh hospice and the West Lothian care-at-home team supported a total of 1,690 patients through their in-patient, out-patient, community and day therapy services. I should point out that my wife is a district nurse who provides palliative care to patients in West Lothian and works alongside the Marie Curie care-at-home team, which provides support to those individuals.

Demand for the service is increasing as Scotland’s population is ageing, with the census highlighting that, between 2001 and 2021, the over-65s had increased from 16 per cent of Scotland’s population to 20 per cent, which is an increase of nearly 267,000 people in that age category. Although, compared with previous decades, life expectancy for men and women is increasing, there is a downside in that those who are over 65 have more health problems and the amount of time that is spent in ill health is also rising. That puts pressure on our health service, including those who are working to improve end-of-life care.

The Marie Curie report “How many people need palliative care?” provides basic estimates of the future need and indicates that there will be a significantly higher need for palliative care in the future. The report states:

“The methods used in this report can provide a headcount of how many people in the population need palliative care, but they do not indicate what the service implications are for meeting this need, what the gap is between need and the current provision of care and services, or which groups or individuals are most likely to miss out. More research is needed to model population need for different types of services, alongside improved data on service access, outcomes, and patient and carer experiences.”

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
We are in the home straight. The final item of business is a members’ business debate on S6M-09975, in the name of Bob Doris, on 75 years of Marie Curie. T...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
It is a privilege to lead the final debate in 2023 of Scotland’s Parliament to congratulate Marie Curie on celebrating its 75th anniversary this year. That ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
It does not seem that long since I hosted the round-table session on the dying in the margins study by Marie Curie and the University of Glasgow. That was ba...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I thank Bob Doris for securing the final members’ business debate of the year. I reiterate my thanks to Marie Curie as it celebrates 75 years of palliative c...
Bob Doris SNP
I thank Jackie Baillie for giving way, partly because that allows me to place on record my thanks to colleagues for signing the motion that allowed this deba...
Jackie Baillie Lab
On this occasion, I am happy to agree absolutely with Bob Doris. There is a need for something now to help hospices over this hurdle but, as Mr Doris entirel...
Evelyn Tweed (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
I join my colleagues in congratulating Marie Curie on its 75th anniversary. I am grateful to Bob Doris for raising that important milestone in a members’ bus...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I want to start by paying tribute to and thanking Bob Doris for bringing this debate—the final debate before recess—to Parliament and for his work chairing t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Briggs. 14:14
Gordon MacDonald (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank Bob Doris for bringing the motion to Parliament for debate and Marie Curie for its 75 years of providing palliative care across Scotland and th...
Bob Doris SNP
The member is making a crucial point. Does he agree that my point about the weaker support networks in deprived communities and the more numerous financial v...
Gordon MacDonald SNP
I totally agree with that, and I will come to that point in two seconds. I welcome the announcement in the report that Marie Curie will commission research ...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Bob Doris for bringing this important debate to the chamber. Everyone deserves as pain-free and peaceful a death as possible, surrounded by those wh...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
On the point about funding, the member will recognise the immense public goodwill for hospice care across Scotland. That was exemplified by the efforts to re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Carol Mochan, I can give you the time back.
Carol Mochan Lab
That is a very well-made point. We have addressed how much Scottish people value hospices, and they would do everything that they can to ensure that that fun...
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, for the opportunity to speak in the debate. I, too, will start by paying tribute to Bob Doris for bringing the motion to...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
I, too, thank Bob Doris for lodging the motion for the debate, and I thank members in the chamber for their contributions. Mr Doris has been a champion of ou...
Miles Briggs Con
One of the key issues that we need to address is the fact that, before health and social care integration, a chief executive’s letter provided the certainty ...
Jenni Minto SNP
I note Miles Briggs’s intervention. The care service does not sit within my remit, but I will discuss that with Ms Todd. The aim is to publish the new stra...
Bob Doris SNP
I apologise for interrupting the minister. I am listening carefully to what she is saying. She mentioned that the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill is Ms...
Jenni Minto SNP
Mr Doris makes a good point about who is the right person to speak to, which I recognised when I was on the back benches. I will take that away and make sure...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
That concludes the debate. I take the opportunity to be the last to wish all in the chamber and in the gallery—in particular, all those with a connection to ...