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Meeting of the Parliament 21 December 2023

21 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Land Commission (Appointment of Chair and Commissioners)
Gougeon, Mairi SNP Angus North and Mearns Watch on SPTV

In line with the requirements of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016, the Scottish Land Commission is one of a small number of public bodies for which ministerial appointments to the board are subject to parliamentary approval. Section 10(2) of the 2016 act sets out that

“The Scottish Ministers may appoint a person as a member only if the Scottish Parliament has approved the appointment.”

It does not specify the process that must be followed to obtain parliamentary approval. The parliamentary process to be followed on this occasion was agreed with the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee following an exchange of letters with me. That correspondence was published in full on the committee’s website on 18 December.

The committee agreed that it would take the same approach to consideration of those appointments as it took with the appointments to the board of Environmental Standards Scotland. That approach was to consider the role descriptions and person specifications prior to advertising; to receive information on the proposed candidates from the Scottish Government; to consider and come to a view on whether the process that was followed and the proposed appointments were satisfactory; and to make that view known to Parliament prior to a motion being brought to the chamber. In addition, the convener confirmed in a letter to me on 12 September that the committee had

“agreed not to hear from candidates (either at a formal meeting or informally) as part of the appointment process.”

Appointments to the Scottish Land Commission are regulated by the Ethical Standards Commissioner for Scotland, and the appointments process has been conducted in line with the code of practice for ministerial appointments to public bodies in Scotland. Details of the agreed parliamentary process were subsequently published in the application information pack for candidates, as is required by the code of practice.

I appointed a selection panel to carry out the appointment process on my behalf, which consisted of the deputy director for land reform, rural and island policy at the Scottish Government; the outgoing chair of the Scottish Land Commission, Andrew Thin; and an independent panel member, Dr Patricia Armstrong.

The Ethical Standards Commissioner decided that the round should be overseen at all stages of the appointments process, meaning that an adviser from his office was also assigned to be a full member of the selection panel. I delegated the creation of the appointment plan, assessment and undertaking of the fit and proper persons test to the selection panel.

The code of practice requires that the selection panel recommend only the most able candidates to the appointing minister. I did not have visibility of the candidates ahead of the selection panel’s recommendations; I received a summary from the panel once the assessment was complete. The posts were publicised widely online and circulated to a wide list of stakeholders. Applications were encouraged from a diverse range of backgrounds, and the Scottish Land Commission ran two information events to enable potential applicants to find out more about the roles.

A total of 17 applications were received for the land commissioner roles, and seven applications were received for the role of chair. I am grateful to the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee members for their engagement throughout the process and for their careful consideration of the appointments. I therefore welcome the committee’s recommendation, in its report to Parliament, that Michael Russell be approved as the next chair of the Scottish Land Commission—[Interruption.]—and that Craig Mackenzie and Deborah Roberts be approved as land commissioners—[Interruption.]

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is consideration of motion S6M-11733, in the name of Mairi Gougeon, on the appointment of the chair and commissioners of the Scotti...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
In line with the requirements of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016, the Scottish Land Commission is one of a small number of public bodies for which minist...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
Members!
Mairi Gougeon SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. In accordance with section 11(4) of the 2016 act, a statement was laid in Parliament on 29 November explaining how Scottish mi...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Corrupt! Members: Oh!
The Presiding Officer NPA
Cabinet secretary, please take your seat for a moment. I am hearing shouting and commenting, and it is simply not going to continue. Members will be well awa...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. The commentary there was entirely unacceptable. Mr Stephen Kerr shouted out the word “corrupt”. I do not know whether...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I point out the need for all members to conduct themselves at all times in a courteous and respectful manner.
Mairi Gougeon SNP
For Scottish Land Commission appointments, we also have a parliamentary scrutiny process that is underpinned by statute that was put into effect by the Scott...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Douglas Lumsden to speak to and move amendment S6M-11733.1. 13:16
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
It is regrettable that the committee was unable to come to a unanimous decision on the issue. Perhaps the fact that the vote was split along party lines tell...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, members.
Douglas Lumsden Con
—yet Mike Russell has continuously made disparaging comments in the media about people in public life, describing a well-respected female MP as having a tant...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Members!
Douglas Lumsden Con
His blatant lack of respect for democratically elected individuals, use of derogatory language and nasty comments about others on social media should have be...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I will start with a quote from the opening paragraph of the Scottish Government’s webpage on the Open Government Partnership. “As members of the Open Govern...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I am relatively new to the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee, so my role was to content myself that the process, which previous members of the committ...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
First, I thank Kevin Stewart for making his point of order and putting in the Official Report the comment that I made from a sedentary position, which was th...
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) SNP
Is Mr Kerr being mindful of the fact that the process for the public appointment that we are considering today is the same as the process for every other pub...
Stephen Kerr Con
I am questioning the suitability of the former president of the SNP and the former interim chief executive officer of the SNP as an appropriate person to hol...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Members!
Stephen Kerr Con
On top of that, there is the stench of cronyism and deep cynicism from the SNP putting forward that name at this moment—in the very last moments of the very ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Mr Kerr has just said that Mr Russell has gone “beyond ... robust political debate”—a situation of a pot calling a kettle black. Presiding Officer, it is up ...
Stephen Kerr Con
I am not sure whether that was an intervention or a point of order.
The Presiding Officer NPA
I reassure Mr Stewart that I will intervene as and when I think that it is appropriate.
Stephen Kerr Con
I believe in robust political exchanges and debate, and I would never deny that. However, when it comes to personally attacking or abusing political opponent...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Kerr, conclude your remarks. Thank you.
Stephen Kerr Con
It is wholly unacceptable for someone who has used political debate for personal abuse and to attack people on a personal basis, and who has described those ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You must conclude.
Stephen Kerr Con
It is deeply cynical of the Government to even suggest that, and Scotland can see it.