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Meeting of the Parliament 20 December 2023

20 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill

I hope that members will be able to hear some of the speech from where I am taking part in the debate this afternoon. I am pleased to be able to speak in today’s stage 3 debate on this important piece of legislation. As others have commented, it is more than 100 years since we have seen a change in the law in this area. I am aware that, for many people, and perhaps even some of my colleagues, the bill can seem like a pretty dry read. It can seem like a very technical bill that will not have an impact on the day-to-day lives of our constituents. Even so, it is an important bill that will be welcomed by many people, especially those in the legal profession and those who execute trusts and wills.

Broadly speaking, the bill will make a good piece of legislation, and I look forward to it being passed in a few minutes’ time. Several colleagues have addressed a number of the issues that have come up, but it is important to note how the bill has been improved as a result of members and the Government engaging constructively. I thank the minister for her work on my amendments, which I believe have improved the bill this afternoon.

One disappointment is that we have not gone far enough on the law of succession. I understand that, as my colleague Oliver Mundell said, we did not want to have a controversial or political bill, but I hope that within the next 100 years we will see more radical reform of the law of succession, which still has many outdated provisions that are not fit for the 21st century. I know that the Scottish Government is going to consult on that, and I hope that a bill on the matter will be passed in the next session of Parliament.

I, too, thank the people who helped the committee and the Parliament to get to where we are today—the Scottish Law Commission, the committee team, the witnesses and those who helped to draft amendments. I suspect that the bill will not get much coverage in the media tomorrow or in the days ahead, but I believe that it can and will make a difference for the better to the lives of individuals here in Scotland, and I look forward to supporting it in a few minutes’ time.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11699, in the name of Siobhian Brown, on the Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill. 16:30
The Minister for Victims and Community Safety (Siobhian Brown) SNP
I thank the members of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their thoughtful and helpful consideration of the Trusts and Succession (Scotland) B...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak in the debate and to confirm that the Scottish Conservatives will support the bill at decision time. As the minister outlined, this is ...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I thank the committee clerks and all those who have been involved in the bill. This is a technical bill, but it will have real impacts on people’s lives. I h...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
The victims of McClure’s state that most people who have been let down by McClure’s do not yet know that they are victims and that the situation is vastly un...
Rhoda Grant Lab
I absolutely agree with Bob Doris and I pay tribute to him for giving voice to the victims of McClure’s and inviting them to Parliament to speak to MSPs. I a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 16:46
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
First, I will touch on the McClure situation. I raised it in the committee because constituents, some of whom have been seriously affected, came to me with t...
Bob Doris SNP
Hear! Hear!
Stuart McMillan SNP
Thank you. I thank those who contributed to the committee’s scrutiny of the bill, whether in writing or by appearing before the committee during one of the ...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by thanking the Scottish Law Commission for its detailed and technical work during more than a decade on the different elements of the bill. I am gra...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, I spoke in the stage 1 debate on the Trusts and Successions (Scotland) Bill in September. It is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Like hitting the microphone with your papers, there are various ways of gaining the Parliament’s attention. We now move to closing speeches. 16:58
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I think that the most recent attempt at awakening the chamber was more successful than your whacking the microphone earlier, Deputy Presiding Officer. Scott...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I hope that members will be able to hear some of the speech from where I am taking part in the debate this afternoon. I am pleased to be able to speak in tod...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
I ask Siobhian Brown to wind up. 17:04
Siobhian Brown SNP
I thank the members who have contributed to the debate. There is a general consensus that the law on trusts is outdated, and the changes that are proposed in...