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Meeting of the Parliament 19 December 2023

19 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Ukrainians in Scotland
Chapman, Maggie Green North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

Just a week ago, we were here discussing the human rights of asylum seekers in Scotland. Many colleagues highlighted the important contribution that asylum seekers and refugees have made and will continue to make to our communities. We know that those who fled Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine and sought sanctuary and refuge here in Scotland have already made valuable contributions to our communities, our culture and our country.

We should be proud that Scotland has stood resolutely with Ukrainians fleeing war. We should be proud that more than 25,000 displaced Ukrainians have been supported here. We should be proud that we opened our hearts and homes to so many people in perhaps the greatest humanitarian protection that we have ever undertaken.

I am very grateful to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, individual local authorities, the Scottish Refugee Council and others in the third sector who have worked together over the past 21 months to develop a warm Scots future. Strategic planning and the implementation of those plans are everyone’s responsibility.

We talk about our tradition of hospitality and welcome and about Scotland being a nation of immigrants, but that tradition and culture is clearly under threat, given the actions of, the legislation that has been passed by and the approach that has been taken by the UK Government, which is desperate to undermine us. We must keep doing things differently here.

Although we applaud the generosity of people opening their homes and families to those in need, this issue is too important to leave to individual actions alone. A warm Scots future represents a shift to looking ahead, with the focus being on the integration of Ukrainian refugees in all aspects of Scottish life. We want them to be able to play active roles in communities across Scotland and to have the opportunity to rebuild their lives and fulfil their potential in work and education. The strategy highlights the importance of education, which must be accessible for people of all ages, from childcare provision to postgraduate degrees.

We need a warm Scots future in spirit, but we need it in reality, too. The homes that we provide need to be literally warm in winter and not too hot in summer. Quality housing is a key foundation for a thriving future, as others have highlighted. I hope that we can build on schemes such as Aberdeen City Council’s use of the Ukraine longer-term resettlement fund to bring up to 500 homes back into use across the city. Of course, when those homes are no longer needed by Ukrainians, they will be retained as part of the city’s social housing stock for others in need.

Our response to the war in Ukraine showed our capacity for imagination, empathy and solidarity. People faced experiences beyond our comprehension, and we pulled together. We have collectively learned about trauma, community building and the strength of the bonds of our shared humanity. Over the coming years, we will need to build on all that and more, as we will see an increasing number of international crises: wars over territory and scarce resources, natural disasters and climate catastrophe.

What we have learned over the past two years can help us to facilitate deep and lasting support for Ukrainians and, I hope, for all others who need sanctuary and refuge, because our commitment to a shared humanity must be for all people, not just for those who are deemed worthy.

The work that we do will be complemented by work on the international stage on peacemaking, on mitigation of and adaptation to climate change and on reconstruction that is based not on corporate enrichment but on grass-roots participation and democracy. We must grasp the opportunity to show feminist foreign policy in action.

We should be proud of what we have done in Scotland, but we must always strive to do more. We must be acutely aware of wars, oppression and climate effects across the world and of the people affected. They are equally in need of sanctuary—

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11696, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on from a warm Scots welcome to a warm Scots future for Uk...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
I am pleased to speak once again on support for Ukraine and the delivery of a warm Scots future for its people here in Scotland. As 2023 draws to a close, it...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I gently remind those members who intend to speak in the debate but have not yet pressed their request-to-speak buttons to do so now, or as soon as possible....
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I welcome this debate and the opportunity, which the cabinet secretary mentioned, for Parliament to reaffirm in the strongest possible terms our solidarity w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Paul O’Kane to speak to and move amendment S6M-11696.1. You have around five minutes, Mr O’Kane. 16:44
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It has been 663 days since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022, and it has been 3,589 days since Ukraine’s sovereignty was first violated ...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
In the interests of a more rounded debate, will the member acknowledge that some of the issues with housing came about because the UK took so long to open it...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You may have the time back.
Paul O’Kane Lab
I am grateful, Presiding Officer. I would not deny much of what Mr Brown has said about the challenges that there have been with UK support and ensuring tha...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I declare an interest, having been a sponsor or host under the homes for Ukraine scheme for nine months and also having been placed under official sanction b...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We now move to the open debate. 16:56
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
It is two years since the invasion began, and much of the talk about the invasion in the media now, particularly in the light of other world events, is about...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The time that we had in hand has pretty much been exhausted, so I would be grateful if members could stick to their speaking time allocations. 17:01
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Christmas is the perfect time to have this debate, because it reminds us how much Ukrainian people’s lives have been upturned by Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukra...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I declare an interest as a member of the cross-party group on Ukraine. I welcome the comments about Colin Beattie setting that up in the Parliament. I am als...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
In February 2022, when Vladimir Putin launched his brutal, all-out invasion of Ukraine, which was the worst escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian war since it be...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
In a desperate attempt to be consensual, I note that the quote about “four times” is actually a UK figure and is not really replicated in Scotland. I am not ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you some of that time back, Mr Sweeney.
Paul Sweeney Lab
As my colleague Paul O’Kane intimated, we rely on the briefing by the Red Cross for that information. If the cabinet secretary were to furnish us with equiva...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
Will Paul Sweeney take an intervention on that point?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The member cannot give way. He is beginning to wind up.
Paul Sweeney Lab
I am afraid that I do not have time to address that point in detail with Bob Doris, but that is a fine example of the haphazard approach to planning. Althoug...
Ben Macpherson (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) SNP
The war in Ukraine continues to shock, upset and worry us. We continue to feel and share great admiration for the people of Ukraine as they continue to fight...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Just a week ago, we were here discussing the human rights of asylum seekers in Scotland. Many colleagues highlighted the important contribution that asylum s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Maggie Chapman Green
—and are equally able to contribute to Scotland’s future.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Again, I encourage members to stick to their allocated speaking time. 17:23
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in the debate in support of the Scottish Government’s strategy to help Ukrainians living in Scotland to settle in communities and gain ...
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
Sadly, in recent years, we have witnessed numerous international crises that have displaced millions globally, including the situation in Afghanistan, the on...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the closing speeches. 17:31