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Meeting of the Parliament 05 December 2023

05 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disability Equality and Human Rights

It is a real pleasure to follow Karen Adam’s very powerful speech. Her ability to illustrate her childhood resulted in me almost being transported into that church hall, with the noise, enthusiasm and boundless energy and fun showing what can and should be achieved. Her comment about bridging the two communities is probably better emphasised by highlighting the need to fill in the gap between the two communities. Disabled communities as well as able-bodied communities will be the better for being together, for witnessing the fun, noise and exuberance in that church hall, for understanding the passions and the challenges that people face and, in particular, for seeing how we can all benefit by bringing together the strengths of all our small and divergent communities.

As we have heard, 3 December was the international day of persons with disabilities, which dates back to 1992, when the UN sought to mobilise support for the dignity, rights and wellbeing of persons with disabilities and, more importantly, to increase awareness of the gains that can be derived from the integration of persons with disabilities in every aspect of political, social, economic and cultural life. On that point, Karen Adam spoke strongly about the community that she grew up in. It was not a community that sought to pass on its challenges to its young people but a community that wanted to show people what it was.

That brings me to the challenge that I have with the motion that is before us. It talks about an “ambition for Scotland” and developing and implementing an immediate priorities plan for disabled people. It includes the phrase “if effectively implemented” and talks about

“sharing policy development and decision-making in a genuinely inclusive and participatory manner.”

There is nothing that can be complained about in that regard, except for the fact that we are still waiting to reach that ambition. We are still waiting for the development and effective implementation of the immediate priorities plan. We are still waiting for it to be constructed by and shared with people who rightly represent that community.

We have heard about the challenges that disabled people who live in Scotland face—those who are missing out, are living in poverty and are excluded from full and equal participation in our communities. I put that down to a certain amount of division and distraction within the Government. We should have done more by now. It is terrible that we are still waiting to see when we can bring together the strengths and benefits of those communities.

We have heard about the Scottish Human Rights Commission’s warning that disabled people in Scotland are experiencing

“unrelenting attacks on their human rights”.

If the Government’s sole achievement is committing to developing an immediate priorities plan that was promised back in June, that does not even start to address the crisis that our disabled people face today. Consecutive cuts to the social care budget, the lengthy wait for adult disability payments, as we have heard, and skyrocketing non-residential care charges point to a dereliction of duty. This was an opportunity to plan out and announce what could be done.

In September, a group of disabled people’s organisations across Scotland sent a letter to the First Minister, and I do not think that I can put the challenge better than they did. I hope that the minister is able to address what was said:

“First Minister, it should shock and shame us that the position of disabled people has deteriorated since the UN described our lives as a ‘human catastrophe’ in 2017, highlighting ‘grave and systematic violations’ of our human rights as a consequence of welfare reform and cuts to public services. Six years later, the fate of disabled people is in greater peril. A lack of focus and attention, combined with no accountability or political leadership and a genuine gap in disability competence politically and in your Government, has resulted in disabled people and our DPOs feeling dehumanised and deprioritised.”

In this chamber, we speak so much about what we hope will be. We see in the motion what the potential is. From the very powerful contributions from my colleagues Pam Duncan-Glancy and Karen Adam, we understand what can be achieved if we bring communities together, so that people do not need to have a haven just in one place but can live in a society that is a haven for their needs. In that way, we can make this world a proper and better place.

The cry has gone out. The letter to the First Minister succinctly describes the challenge. The question is: after all these years, will the SNP Government meet it? That is the question that is being asked by our disabled communities.

16:05  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11537, in the name of Emma Roddick, on championing disability equality and human rights. 14:47
The Minister for Equalities, Migration and Refugees (Emma Roddick) SNP
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I do not disagree with anything that the minister has said thus far in an excellent speech. Does she agree that the gold standard for protecting the rights o...
Emma Roddick SNP
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Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
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Emma Roddick SNP
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Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Emma Roddick SNP
Absolutely. I would point out that Social Security Scotland has taken urgent action around decision making to speed it up. In the past quarter, we processed ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I apologise for the delay in my attendance in the chamber. I will open with the words of Natasha Hamilton, daughter of Anne Duke, who gave evidence last mon...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Please resume your seat for a second, Mr Briggs. I am finding your speech very interesting, but I am looking at the amendment that was selected—although it h...
Miles Briggs Con
I absolutely am. The cases that I am referring to relate to individuals who had complex needs and care needs during the pandemic. Indeed, the first line of m...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to participate in the debate and to speak about the experience of disabled people in Scotland so soon after the international day of persons wit...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the Government for bringing its motion to the chamber for debate. When I think back to my time as convener of the for Scotland’s disabled ch...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On that point, is the member aware of the stark statistic that three out of four users of the Trussell Trust’s food banks are from a household with a disable...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Something is fundamentally wrong in our provision—in the safety net that we in this place seek to provide for families affected by disability—if such a dispr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open debate. I remind all members who wish to speak in the debate to ensure that they have pressed their request-to-speak buttons. 15:25
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
The aim captured in the Government’s motion is that all disabled people should have freedom, dignity, choice and control over their lives. I hope that all of...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I very much enjoyed listening to the story of Kate Forbes’s uncle, but before she told us that story, she talked about giving people with disabilities a voic...
Kate Forbes SNP
That is absolutely fair and right. It is not just about listening to disabled people, but about having the courage to introduce policies that reflect the div...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We have quite a bit of time in hand, so interventions can easily be taken without any reduction in speaking time. With that, I call Annie Wells to be followe...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I welcome the chance today to talk about the challenges that disabled people face in Scotland. There is much in the motion that we can welcome. We agree that...
Kate Forbes SNP
I appreciate the member’s contribution. I am not sure that drug and alcohol deaths are specific to the discussion on disabled people that we are having right...
Annie Wells Con
My colleague Jeremy Balfour has proposed a bill to introduce a disability commissioner. We support increasing the distance in the adult disability payment mo...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Worldwide, more than 1 billion people are disabled, and in Scotland, that figure is well over 1 million. That is a quarter of our population whose day-to-day...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Pam Duncan-Glancy, who joins us online. 15:45
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Parliament—rightly—always recognises the international day of disabled people, and we should be very proud of that. However, this year sees a ma...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
It is a privilege to talk on this subject. It is no secret to the Parliament that campaigning for human rights is a deep passion of mine, mostly because of t...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a real pleasure to follow Karen Adam’s very powerful speech. Her ability to illustrate her childhood resulted in me almost being transported into that ...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to today’s debate. The World Health Organization estimates that around 1.3 billion people worldwide—roughly one in six—have some f...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I give special thanks to the disabled people’s organisations that provided briefings for the debate. Most of them included testimonies that give voice to the...