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Meeting of the Parliament 05 December 2023

05 Dec 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disability Equality and Human Rights
Roddick, Emma SNP Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I am very glad to be speaking to the motion, because, for many reasons, it is an important time of year for us to mark. First, we are just five days away from the 75th anniversary of the signing of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which set out, for the first time, fundamental human rights that are to be universally protected. We have just marked the international day of disabled people, the theme of which was “United in action to rescue and achieve the Sustainable Development Goals for, with and by persons with disabilities”. As many people of faith and none celebrate various holidays and events at this time of year, it is a good opportunity to reflect on where we are as a society—as humans across the world—and how we are delivering on our principles and supporting people who have less than we have.

Creating a fairer and more equal society is a priority for the Government. We know that a fairer Scotland can be realised only when we secure equal rights for everyone—when someone’s age, disability, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion and family and socioeconomic status do not decide the course of their life or present them with barriers and prejudice. Despite great steps forward having been made, we know that, in many areas of life, disabled people are often the furthest away from having their rights realised.

The core principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights include that human rights are universal and inalienable—they belong to everyone equally. We are all

“free and equal in dignity and rights.”

“Dignity” is a familiar word to disabled people. From the perception that requiring support is undignified to suggestions that showing any kind of vulnerability, be it social or medical, means that someone is not living with dignity, so much pressure is placed on people to present a certain way, to mask feelings of pain and to suffer in silence.

As a disabled person, I know how strong we often are because we have had to be. I know how often we have been ignored because we are often easy to ignore. I know how much work is needed across the board not just to improve the visible and practical issues that we face, but to undo the systemic inequality that stacks everything up against us. Not only do we face discrimination and prejudice in the workplace, but we have to listen as Conservatives down south suggest that disabled people have value as human beings only if they are able to work and that relying on social security, which keeps many disabled people alive, is somehow a failure of character.

The changes to work capability assessments that are proposed by the Tories concern us greatly, because we know that they would lead to people with long-term health conditions or people who are disabled being at risk of benefit sanction. On 2 October, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice wrote to her counterpart in the United Kingdom Government, seeking assurance that any changes would be evidence based and in the interests of those they are there to support. However, research by the Department for Work and Pensions has found that the move from legacy benefits to universal credit has resulted in more and more disabled people being subject to sanctions, including those who are waiting for work capability assessments.

We are opposed to that widespread use of sanctions. It is clear that they do not work. However, the vilification of disabled people and the message that is being sent, that they are of less worth than others and that harm done to our community by welfare cuts is some kind of necessary evil, continue to show up again and again. That betrays an inaccurate and degrading view of disabled people.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11537, in the name of Emma Roddick, on championing disability equality and human rights. 14:47
The Minister for Equalities, Migration and Refugees (Emma Roddick) SNP
I am very glad to be speaking to the motion, because, for many reasons, it is an important time of year for us to mark. First, we are just five days away fro...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I do not disagree with anything that the minister has said thus far in an excellent speech. Does she agree that the gold standard for protecting the rights o...
Emma Roddick SNP
That is an excellent point. The member will be aware that the UNCRPD is one of four treaties that we are seeking to incorporate into Scots law as part of our...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
That is not the feedback that I often get from young people in my constituency. Those living in rural areas find those programmes very hard to access, and go...
Emma Roddick SNP
Oliver Mundell asked me recently about that particular service, and I am more than happy to reach out and speak again about what is happening. Obviously, our...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does the minister recognise the significant challenges in relation to delays in the administration of ADP and the challenging wait times to get through to So...
Emma Roddick SNP
Absolutely. I would point out that Social Security Scotland has taken urgent action around decision making to speed it up. In the past quarter, we processed ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I apologise for the delay in my attendance in the chamber. I will open with the words of Natasha Hamilton, daughter of Anne Duke, who gave evidence last mon...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Please resume your seat for a second, Mr Briggs. I am finding your speech very interesting, but I am looking at the amendment that was selected—although it h...
Miles Briggs Con
I absolutely am. The cases that I am referring to relate to individuals who had complex needs and care needs during the pandemic. Indeed, the first line of m...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to participate in the debate and to speak about the experience of disabled people in Scotland so soon after the international day of persons wit...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the Government for bringing its motion to the chamber for debate. When I think back to my time as convener of the for Scotland’s disabled ch...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On that point, is the member aware of the stark statistic that three out of four users of the Trussell Trust’s food banks are from a household with a disable...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Something is fundamentally wrong in our provision—in the safety net that we in this place seek to provide for families affected by disability—if such a dispr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We now move to the open debate. I remind all members who wish to speak in the debate to ensure that they have pressed their request-to-speak buttons. 15:25
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
The aim captured in the Government’s motion is that all disabled people should have freedom, dignity, choice and control over their lives. I hope that all of...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I very much enjoyed listening to the story of Kate Forbes’s uncle, but before she told us that story, she talked about giving people with disabilities a voic...
Kate Forbes SNP
That is absolutely fair and right. It is not just about listening to disabled people, but about having the courage to introduce policies that reflect the div...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We have quite a bit of time in hand, so interventions can easily be taken without any reduction in speaking time. With that, I call Annie Wells to be followe...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I welcome the chance today to talk about the challenges that disabled people face in Scotland. There is much in the motion that we can welcome. We agree that...
Kate Forbes SNP
I appreciate the member’s contribution. I am not sure that drug and alcohol deaths are specific to the discussion on disabled people that we are having right...
Annie Wells Con
My colleague Jeremy Balfour has proposed a bill to introduce a disability commissioner. We support increasing the distance in the adult disability payment mo...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Worldwide, more than 1 billion people are disabled, and in Scotland, that figure is well over 1 million. That is a quarter of our population whose day-to-day...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Pam Duncan-Glancy, who joins us online. 15:45
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Parliament—rightly—always recognises the international day of disabled people, and we should be very proud of that. However, this year sees a ma...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
It is a privilege to talk on this subject. It is no secret to the Parliament that campaigning for human rights is a deep passion of mine, mostly because of t...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a real pleasure to follow Karen Adam’s very powerful speech. Her ability to illustrate her childhood resulted in me almost being transported into that ...
Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to today’s debate. The World Health Organization estimates that around 1.3 billion people worldwide—roughly one in six—have some f...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I give special thanks to the disabled people’s organisations that provided briefings for the debate. Most of them included testimonies that give voice to the...