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Meeting of the Parliament 22 November 2023

22 Nov 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Motion
Kerr, Stephen Con Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

I will therefore continue, because some things need to be said about the importance of the issue.

Grangemouth fuels our cars, buses, ambulances, police cars, fire engines, agricultural equipment and emergency generators. Need it be said that fuel is important?

We know that the Scottish National Party and the Greens have shown blatant and open hostility to the oil and gas sector. We need to understand whether that has been a factor in Petroineos’s decision to end refining.

In 2016, the Scottish Government and the United Kingdom Government worked together to maintain gas processing at Grangemouth. It is worthy of the Parliament to ask ministers whether that is being explored now. Is there an option for the UK Government and the Scottish Government to work together in the best interests of our constituents? What policy does the Scottish Government have relating to the importance of the domestic production of petrol and diesel? How does the potential removal of large-scale refining from Scotland impact on emergency planning, our resilience and our economy? What will the Scottish Government do for the employees of the plant affected by the proposed change? What support will it make available for the people of Grangemouth?

Those are all questions that members—especially those who represent Grangemouth—have a responsibility to ask. They are questions that it is reasonable for our constituents to hear being asked, with answers from ministers.

One cannot help but wonder whether, if the plant and those jobs were at risk in Glasgow or Edinburgh, the Government would already have scheduled a statement for tomorrow. [Interruption.] Members may disagree with that point, but that is a consideration for people in central Scotland.

I note that the First Minister has seen fit to make a statement about the situation at Grangemouth. I understand that he did that at Bute house in front of journalists. I do not understand why a statement on the crisis cannot be made in the Parliament, with questions to come from elected members. I do not think that that is unreasonable.

I note that Neil Gray, who is the relevant cabinet secretary, has offered to meet some of us in a private Zoom meeting on Friday afternoon. That is good, but let us have an open discussion and a statement in the chamber ahead of any such private meeting.

I am grateful for the Deputy Presiding Officer’s indulgence. If our Parliament is not here to discuss such matters of importance to the people of Scotland, what is it here for?

I move amendment S6M-11374.1, to insert after “the following programme of business—”:

“Thursday 23 November 2023

11.40 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

11.40 am General Questions

12.00 pm First Minister’s Questions

followed by Members’ Business

1.45 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

1.45 pm Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Questions

2.00 pm Portfolio Questions:
Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition

followed by Ministerial Statement: Grangemouth Oil Refinery

followed by Stage 1 Debate: Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill

followed by Business Motions

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time”.

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In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-11374, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a bus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Stephen Kerr to speak to and move amendment S6M-11374.1. Mr Kerr, you have up to five minutes. 17:20
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Having consulted my party’s business manager, I am pleased to bring the amendment to the chamber. I have been quite shocked that there has been no attempt b...
Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
I, too, as the constituency MSP for Falkirk East, am shocked by this. I have spent this afternoon in dialogue with Petroineos, I have a meeting tomorrow with...
Stephen Kerr Con
I would expect nothing less from Michelle Thomson. She has taken the interests of her constituents to heart and has set up those meetings. However, that does...
Jim Fairlie (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Stephen Kerr Con
I am not sure that I will get any time back if I give way. Will I, Deputy Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Not really, Mr Kerr.
Stephen Kerr Con
I will therefore continue, because some things need to be said about the importance of the issue. Grangemouth fuels our cars, buses, ambulances, police cars...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call George Adam to respond on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. Minister, you have up to five minutes, please. 17:25
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (George Adam) SNP
At the heart of the discussion and debate are the families and people who are employed at BP Grangemouth. Those are the people and the community that the Sco...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Mr Kerr had the opportunity to ask questions about Grangemouth this afternoon, as other members did. However, after he made a point of order that was dealt w...
George Adam SNP
Kevin Stewart makes a very important point. At 2 o’clock, Stephen Kerr made a point of order. The amendment came in at 4.59 pm, after the first division bell...
Stephen Kerr Con
First, let us first address the issue of what happened at 2 o’clock. I attempted to raise a point of order, which was dealt with by the Deputy Presiding Offi...
George Adam SNP
The Parliament has processes, one of which is parliamentary questions. Mr Kerr needs to have a look at himself and decide how he is going to interact with th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The question is, that amendment S6M-11374.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr, which seeks to amend motion S6M-11374, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting platform. 17:29 Meeting suspended. 17:31 On resum...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The question is, that amendment S6M-11374.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr, be agreed to. Members should cast their votes now. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The result of the division on amendment S6M-11374.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr, is: For 52, Against 64, Abstentions 0. Amendment disagreed to.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The next question is, that motion S6M-11374, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme, be agreed t...