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Meeting of the Parliament 16 November 2023

16 Nov 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Culture in Communities
Cameron, Donald Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

The debate has been wide ranging and helpful. I add my thanks to the committee’s clerks for all their work on its inquiry into culture in the communities and to all those who gave evidence. I thank, too, all the organisations that hosted visits from the committee, including the excellent ones that some members took part in to the Stove Network and Lift D&G in Dumfries, to the various venues here in Edinburgh and to Orkney.

Before I respond to members’ contributions I will expand on some other important aspects of our report, further to those raised by the committee’s convener in her opening speech.

Throughout our inquiry we sought to better understand the factors that either support or impede the development and growth of cultural activity in communities in Scotland. One view that we heard consistently was that there must be physical spaces in which cultural activities can take place. Those can include traditional venues such as theatres and cinemas, but also community assets such as village halls, community centres, schools, libraries and church buildings, which are equally important to our cultural ecology.

On our visit to Dumfries, we saw the vital role of the Stove Network building, which provides a cultural venue and meeting place on the high street and is somewhere to bring the community together to participate in culture. In Lochside, we visited the Lift D&G project space, which now operates as a community hub, having successfully moved into community ownership.

However, we have also been concerned to hear of a growing trend of cultural and community assets becoming less available, less affordable and at greater risk of closure. That will no doubt negatively impact on access to culture for the affected communities. Volunteer Scotland lamented the lack of affordable and accessible community venues. Fèisean nan Gàidheal said that unaffordable rental levels for community spaces such as school buildings present a very real threat to community cultural activities. Making Music said that the rationalisation of the church estate was proving a significant challenge for its members. Creative Lives expressed concerns about the longer-term viability of venues run by local councils or arm’s-length cultural trusts, which might be subject to closure as they face financial pressure.

Professor David Stevenson said that anguish was expressed over the closure of the Filmhouse but that the closure of community halls, which are the cornerstone of community culture, was being ignored. He told us that the impact of community spaces closing was even

“more significant in rural areas and smaller places, in terms of the effect of one space—one community hall—that had supported a multitude of cultural activities closing down.”—[Official Report, Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, 27 April 2023; c 13.]

We heard that there was a need to improve the mapping of assets at a local level to support better use of those assets, to improve understanding of the impact that individual site closures could have in the wider local context and to inform planning decisions. We heard that the Scottish Government should understand better which communities across Scotland have limited access to spaces for culture.

We considered community ownership as one possible route to keeping spaces open for use by the community. In her opening speech, the convener touched on the vital role of volunteers in sustaining community culture and the burden that that can place on individuals. We heard about similar challenges in relation to the community ownership of assets. That requires expertise, as well as volunteers’ time and resources, and high costs are often associated with managing and maintaining such spaces.

It was clear to us that community ownership cannot always be the answer to protecting cultural assets that are subject to closure. However, when it is a viable option, communities need to be provided with on-going support and advice.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11153, in the name of Clare Adamson, on behalf of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture ...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to open this debate as convener of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. I would like to put on record my thanks t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry to interrupt, Ms Adamson, but I think that your allocated time is nine minutes.
Clare Adamson SNP
I beg your pardon, Deputy Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We do not have any time in hand.
Clare Adamson SNP
On that note, I will conclude. I move, That the Parliament notes the conclusions and recommendations contained in the Constitution, Europe, External Affair...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much, Ms Adamson. I call the Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture, Angus Robertson. You have up to eight minutes, ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture (Angus Robertson) SNP
I am pleased to be here today to hear from colleagues across the chamber about how we harness the opportunities and rise to the challenges of place-based cul...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The debate provides a welcome opportunity for the Parliament to set out its vision for embedding culture in our communities. An effective place-based approac...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As a committee member and on behalf of Scottish Labour, I am pleased to welcome the report, which highlights the benefits of a place-based approach to cultur...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate, with speeches of up to six minutes. 15:59
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
I am a member of the committee but, unlike the previous speakers, I was not there during consideration of the report that we are discussing today, so I canno...
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome this debate on the conclusions and recommendations in the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee’s report, “Culture in Commun...
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sharon Dowey Con
No—time is short today. The lack of certainty and stability makes those organisations’ lives very difficult. That is just one example, but the committee’s r...
Kaukab Stewart (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I praise the work of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. A lot of work goes into taking evidence and producing committee report...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank the committee members who carried out the inquiry, those who gave evidence and the clerks and researchers for their work in distilling that evidence ...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate, and I, too, put on record my thanks to the members and clerks of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms Harper, we have no time in hand. Could you bring your remarks to a close, please?
Emma Harper SNP
Okay—yes. I am in my final sentence. I welcome the committee’s report and the debate today. 16:30
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
It has been an absolute privilege to sit on the committee during this inquiry. We had a unique opportunity to hear from an incredible array of cultural organ...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
As a substitute member of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, I am pleased to speak in this debate, which has offered us the op...
Foysol Choudhury (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Place-based approaches to culture are vital. They enable communities to make decisions about culture that best suit the needs and wants of the local populati...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to be able to contribute to today’s debate on how we can empower our communities to deliver a place-based approach. It is great to hear from aro...
Keith Brown SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Pam Gosal Con
I do not think that I have enough time. The committee was therefore right to recommend that the Government work with Creative Scotland, the Convention of Sc...
The Minister for Culture, Europe and International Development (Christina McKelvie) SNP
I thank my colleagues for their contributions and the committee, which is diligently chaired by Clare Adamson, for its detailed report. I am very pleased th...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
I call Donald Cameron to wind up the debate on behalf of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. 17:02
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The debate has been wide ranging and helpful. I add my thanks to the committee’s clerks for all their work on its inquiry into culture in the communities and...
Neil Bibby Lab
We heard evidence about the importance of transport links and of having affordable and reliable public transport to get people to spaces where they can acces...