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Meeting of the Parliament 01 November 2023

01 Nov 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Flooding (Support for Communities)

I am very grateful to have the opportunity to respond for the Government on this most important issue.

Storm Babet was an exceptional weather event for Scotland that had some terrible and, at times, tragic consequences. I want to make it absolutely clear to all members in the chamber, and to the guests who have joined us in the gallery, that we are committed to supporting the people who have been impacted by storm Babet, and that—as with all exceptional events—we are committed to learning every lesson that it is possible to learn from our response and the recovery process.

Before proceeding to the substance of my speech, I offer my heartfelt condolences to the families and friends of the individuals who tragically lost their lives in storm Babet. They are mourning the loss of loved ones in tragic circumstances, and my heart is with them.

Likewise, I wish to express my continuing sympathy for those whose homes and businesses have been impacted. I know very well, personally and from my constituency, how traumatic flooding is and how frightening the experience is as it unfolds. There is also the stress and uncertainty of the aftermath. Again, my heart goes out to those people.

I must also begin by recognising that storm Babet was met with an impressive response by emergency service providers, local authorities, community groups and other resilience partners. Working in often extremely difficult conditions, those groups ensured that help and support were available to those who needed them. We were very grateful for their dedicated efforts, and I am sure that everyone in the chamber will wish to join me in thanking them. I expect that we will hear that being echoed throughout contributions today.

I am confident in speaking so fulsomely about that co-ordinated and impressive response because I was able to witness it at first hand and on an on-going basis through meetings of the Scottish Government resilience operations, which were chaired by ministers throughout the severe weather event. During media interviews in the midst of the storm, in the morning following the water levels breaching flood defences in Brechin, I noted that Scotland’s preparation had been early, that Scotland was co-ordinated in the response phase and that we would be co-ordinated in our recovery. I repeat that commitment today.

SG resilience meetings took place on 18, 19, 20 and 21 October, and I was able to attend them all. I saw at first hand how the Met Office, the Scottish Environment Protection Agency, Police Scotland, other emergency responders, our utilities companies and—crucially—our local resilience partnerships, among many others, were working determinedly to prepare and deliver in a co-ordinated way, and always with the welfare and best interests of our communities at the heart of their work. Of course, the storm and its impacts ended up being as severe as the Met Office, SEPA and Police Scotland had advised, particularly in the red-warning area.

As Maurice Golden noted, last week the First Minister visited Brechin. He met residents and engaged with the local community, and he took the opportunity to set out that the Scottish Government stands ready to provide support throughout recovery. Subsequently, the Minister for Local Government Empowerment and Planning visited Montrose and Brechin on Monday in order to gain a better understanding of the scale of the impact on the local communities and of how the Scottish Government can best help. My colleague Mairi Gougeon has been visiting food producers that have been impacted by both of October’s storms.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-11036, in the name of Maurice Golden, on supporting communities to mitigate flooding impacts and increase...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Storm Babet has left a terrible trail of destruction in its wake, and the north-east of Scotland, Perthshire and Tayside have been hit especially hard. There...
John Swinney (Perthshire North) (SNP) SNP
I am appreciating the contents of Mr Golden’s speech. As part of what he is advocating, does he see there being a role for community resilience groups to be ...
Maurice Golden Con
I whole-heartedly agree with John Swinney, because it is the people on the ground, rather than the council or another agency, who know which properties are m...
The Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I am very grateful to have the opportunity to respond for the Government on this most important issue. Storm Babet was an exceptional weather event for Scot...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Last week, I asked when the Scottish Government would, in the light of storm Babet, carry out a review of existing and planned flood prevention infrastructur...
Màiri McAllan SNP
Sarah Boyack is absolutely right to raise the issue. The process is on-going on a number of fronts, most of all in respect of SEPA’s flood forecasting, which...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
John Swinney SNP
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will give way to Mr Swinney.
John Swinney SNP
I would like to follow up on the point that Sarah Boyack raised. I make a plea that in the work that SEPA is undertaking to examine future forecasting levels...
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am very happy to give John Swinney a concrete assurance that the storm will not be regarded as an isolated incident. It is never wise to attribute one weat...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am going to make progress, because I am a bit concerned about time, but I will be glad to hear members’ points during the debate. I will use the time that...
Stephen Kerr Con
Will the minister give way?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am afraid not; I am keen to make progress. We know that local recovery plans are being drawn up and delivered through vital partnership working. The Scott...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Cabinet secretary, you must conclude.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I have noted that my colleague the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands is engaging with the impact on food producers and has already...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Before I call the next member, I would be grateful if all members who wish to speak in the debate were to press their request-to-speak buttons. I call Sarah...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Last week’s statement on storm Babet gave us all the chance to send our condolences to the families who had lost a loved one and to thank those in our public...
Brian Whittle Con
We know that prolonged water scarcity—particularly before big storms—can have a significant impact on flood conditions, with impacts such as soil compaction....
Sarah Boyack Lab
There has to be a joined-up approach to tackle extreme weather conditions, because what the member described is experienced in other countries as well. He is...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
On Saturday afternoon, I met residents in Auchtermuchty who had been subjected to significant floods. Their houses were dirty and damp, and the smell still p...
John Swinney SNP
Before Mr Rennie reflects on the lessons of this particular weather incident, would he agree with me that part of what we have to understand is the enormous ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
I will give Mr Rennie the time back.
Willie Rennie LD
Understanding is important, and I will come to that later, because with understanding comes confidence that we will be safe. We need to have the understandin...
John Swinney SNP
Mr Rennie is making an important point, but will he extend it to the issue of forestry harvesting? Significant removal of trees, which is commonplace in many...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Rennie, you need to wind up.
Willie Rennie LD
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