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Meeting of the Parliament 25 October 2023

25 Oct 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Culture Sector

I think that that would be set out in the draft budget, as is normal. We are talking about a five-year investment, starting from the spring of 2024, which is the next financial year. Regardless of what we do, you will vote against the budget—we know that full well. That is how the budget is done. It will be put into the draft budget, like any other spending line. I would have thought that that would be fairly obvious to someone who has been here for so long.

Creative Scotland strives to ensure that funding delivers the widest possible public benefit across Scotland, but that has not always been the case. Even taking into account the fact that prestigious national companies such as Scottish Opera and Scottish Ballet are based in Glasgow and that our capital has an important role, not least through the Edinburgh festival, other areas of Scotland, including Ayrshire, have received a disproportionately low share of Creative Scotland’s funding. It is important to encourage growth in those areas. I ask the cabinet secretary to ensure that funding is allocated fairly across all regions of Scotland, including rural and island regions that often face barriers to accessing the arts. I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for also raising that point.

Amid the unprecedented pandemic, in which the culture and events sectors were among the worst affected, the Scottish Government delivered £256 million of support to creatives, many of whom were otherwise unable to earn a living during that time. Support that was provided by the £85 million Covid-19 emergency fund prevented 82 per cent of Scottish organisations from cutting jobs or becoming insolvent, which highlights the Government’s dedication to supporting the sector.

The Scottish Government’s plan to more than double arts and culture funding by more than £100 million over the next five years is very welcome, and I am astonished by the Grinch-like comments that we have seen from the Opposition in response. Talk about rejecting a solid increase in funding. It is astonishing.

Reckless economic decisions made by the UK Government undeniably created a perfect storm of long-term budget pressures, reduced income generation and increased operating costs, forcing the Scottish Government to make difficult financial decisions. The Tories have some cheek to talk about arts and culture, which they have completely eviscerated south of the border, so let us have no more crocodile tears in that regard. We all know about the damage that Brexit has done, too.

I support calls on the United Kingdom Government to seek visa-free and work permit-free arrangements for Scots working in European Union countries on a short-term basis. Creatives in Scotland previously benefited from funding from Creative Europe, but the final round of funding of more than €18 million is now lost. In its first year, the UK Government’s shared prosperity fund has offered only a measly £7 million in replacement funding to its global screen fund, which is something that the Tories should maybe raise with their bosses down south.

Had we remained in the EU, our creative industries would have received an additional €184 million. As long as Labour joins the Tories in supporting Brexit, Scottish businesses and workers in the culture sector will suffer financially, given that, across the UK, £200 million in arts and culture funding has been lost.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-10917, in the name of Neil Bibby, on supporting Scotland’s culture sector. I invite members who wish to p...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour has brought forward this debate because we recognise and revere the enormous contribution that the arts and culture sector makes to Scotland’...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Neil Bibby Lab
I mean no offence in saying this, Mr Brown, but I would be happy to take an intervention from the cabinet secretary, whom I was requesting details from. Let...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is no time in hand and that that will be ruthlessly enforced. I call Angus Robertson, who has up to five minutes. 16:47
The Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture (Angus Robertson) SNP
I apologise to you, Presiding Officer, and to members in the chamber that, exceptionally, owing to the change in parliamentary business timings, I will not b...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
Angus Robertson SNP
I will make a bit of progress first, if the member does not mind. We have committed to increasing opportunities for participation and creative pursuits in s...
Craig Hoy Con
Is Mr Robertson aware that the future of the Lammermuir festival in East Lothian is in doubt after Creative Scotland withdrew all funding from the programme ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Briefly.
Craig Hoy Con
Is it not the case that what Scotland’s arts and heritage organisations need—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Cabinet secretary.
Craig Hoy Con
—is more funding today and not headline-grabbing promises for tomorrow?
Angus Robertson SNP
If the member had been here for questions on the culture portfolio earlier, he would have heard my answer on the matter. I encourage him to read it in the Of...
Neil Bibby Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Angus Robertson SNP
I have to make some progress, and I have so little time. I am sure that Mr Bibby wants me to answer the questions that he has asked. Due diligence and consi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Alexander Stewart to speak to and move amendment S6M-10917.1. You have up to four minutes, Mr Stewart. 16:53
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to open on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. The motion rightly speaks about the importance of the arts and culture sector and the numero...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the Labour Party for bringing this important and timely debate to the chamber. The playwright George Bernard Shaw once said: “Without art,...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased that Scottish Labour has chosen the culture budget cuts as the topic of its Opposition debate. We need to clear up some of the confusion in the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You have very little time.
Angus Robertson SNP
I have just a quick question. Does Pauline McNeill agree that such decisions need to go through the normal budgetary processes—yes or no?
Pauline McNeill Lab
Why do you not give us a yes or no answer on whether that is real money and when we will see some detail? You could have answered my question. You could have...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Speak through the chair, please.
Pauline McNeill Lab
—but you chose not to. I will finish on that point. 17:05
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
The Scottish Government is evidently committed to growing a more sustainable, diverse and impactful culture sector in Scotland. Given that the creative indus...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Several members have now commented that the figure of £100 million appears to have been plucked out of the air. As convener of the Finance and Public Adminis...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Speak through the chair.
Sarah Boyack Lab
—that that money should be allocated and budgeted and the timescales revealed?
Kenneth Gibson SNP
I think that that would be set out in the draft budget, as is normal. We are talking about a five-year investment, starting from the spring of 2024, which is...