Committee
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee 03 October 2023
03 Oct 2023 · S6 · Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Item of business
Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete
Professor Goodier
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I will start on the material, and then pass over to Martin Liddell to talk about how it impacts on structural design, which is a different field. The name “RAAC” is a good one, bar the “concrete” bit, which is misleading. For something to be called concrete, you need aggregate in there, which is the big 10mm or 20mm stones. RAAC does not have those, so it is not really concrete; it is really a mortar. It has fine sand in there. It is aerated, which means that it has air in there, which is fine, because that means that it is a very good insulator. For a builder, it is lightweight and great to build with, and it is cheaper and easy to transport. The “autoclaved” bit is just about how the material is manufactured, which is in a pressure cooker. You literally cook this stuff at temperature and under pressure, which means that it gains strength more quickly and can be manufactured more quickly. It is reinforced, which back then involved mild steel bars, which I will come back to. Then there is the kind of fancy ingredient. It has cement in there, just like normal concrete and mortar, but it also has aluminium powder that, under temperature, creates hydrogen gas and the material expands. I remember that, at school, we dropped aluminium into water and found that it fizzes and gives off a gas. The underlying chemistry is very basic and is similar to that of normal cement and concrete. There is nothing too fancy and there are no magic ingredients. However, from a materials property point of view, the big difference is that the AAC—the concrete bit—is very low strength, at about 3 or 4 megapascals, whereas normal concrete is around 30 to 40 megapascals. Therefore, we could say that is about 10 or 15 per cent of the strength of normal-strength concrete. However, before you get scared and think, “How could this be possible?”, I point out that that is okay, because the structural engineers type those numbers into their calculations. We know its strength, and that is fine. For me, it is similar to wood, which is really weak—you can snap a pencil or a ruler in your hand. That is fine, because those are the numbers that we use for the design. The reinforcement is the basic mild steel that is used in traditional reinforced concrete. However, it has a coating on it, because one problem with the aerated nature is that water can get through it quite easily. The material can soak up water, which adds to its self-weight. That is a problem, but the water can also get to the steel in the middle, and I guess that we all know that steel, water and oxygen are not a good combination and can create rust. The bars are coated with a fine waterproof coating when they are manufactured. In most cases, we have found that the coating is still pretty intact after 40 years or so but, in some cases, it has deteriorated, cracked and come away a bit, so the bars can rust a little. I will pause there and pass over to Martin Liddell, who can maybe comment on how that affects the structural engineering or the design.
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The Convener
Green
Agenda item 2 is to take evidence from two panels on reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete, which is otherwise known as RAAC. The first panel will be in ro...
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP)
SNP
I am the MSP for the constituency of Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley.
David Baird (West Lothian Council)
I am the property services manager for West Lothian Council.
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
SNP
I represent the Clydebank and Milngavie constituency.
Paul Jones (City of Edinburgh Council)
I am the strategic asset improvement manager for the City of Edinburgh Council.
Peter Watton (Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers)
I am the service director for sustainable development at the City of Edinburgh Council, but I am here on behalf of SOLACE.
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con)
Con
I am a Conservative MSP for Lothian region.
Ailsa Macfarlane (Built Environment Forum Scotland)
I am the director of Built Environment Forum Scotland.
Iain Morris (Scottish Fire and Rescue Service)
I am the acting director of asset management for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service.
Peter Drummond (Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland)
I am a practising architect and I am representing the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland.
Ivan McKee (Glasgow Provan) (SNP)
SNP
I am the Scottish National Party MSP for Glasgow Provan.
Stephen Booth (Aberdeen City Council)
I am the chief officer of corporate landlord at Aberdeen City Council.
Professor Chris Goodier (Loughborough University)
I am a professor of construction engineering and materials at Loughborough University. I have been leading research into RAAC for the past two years.
Martin Liddell (Institution of Structural Engineers)
I am a regional director at Sweco UK and I am here because I am chair of the RAAC study group for the Institution of Structural Engineers.
Paul Livesey (Collaborative Reporting for Safer Structures UK)
I am a chartered structural engineer and the manager of Collaborative Reporting for Safer Structures UK—CROSS-UK, which issued the industry-wide safety alert...
Sam Piplica (Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors)
I am a chartered building surveyor by trade and am now at RICS looking after professional practice and developing guidance and standards for our chartered bu...
The Convener
Green
Thanks very much. We turn to questions from members. Usually, a member will direct their question to somebody in the room or online, initially. If you want t...
Professor Goodier
First, the idea that RAAC has a limited lifespan is a bit of an urban myth. In the media, it is said that it has a 30-year lifespan and the impression is giv...
Peter Drummond
I hesitate to clarify that answer but, although the 1986 BRE paper did, indeed, come back with relatively relaxed results, is it not the case that the 2002 B...
Professor Goodier
Yes, I agree. However, every building that was built 30, 40 or 50 years ago is showing signs of wear and tear and should be surveyed and looked after appropr...
Martin Liddell
To pick up on the subject of what has been going on, the Standing Committee on Structural Safety report was issued in 2009 following the failure of a panel i...
Paul Livesey
Although the BRE report from 1996 suggested that the planks that it tested were safe, it also suggested that RAAC planks should be located and inspected regu...
The Convener
Green
Thank you. I will bring in Ivan McKee.
Ivan McKee
SNP
Thank you, convener. I am interested to understand the extent to which RAAC is significantly different from other building materials. Our briefing says th...
Professor Goodier
I will start on the material, and then pass over to Martin Liddell to talk about how it impacts on structural design, which is a different field. The name “...
Martin Liddell
The low-strength nature of the material means that it behaves very differently, in two ways. The first is to do with the way that the reinforcement gets anch...
Ivan McKee
SNP
It does. Does anyone else wants to comment?
The Convener
Green
I see that Paul Livesey wants to come in online, and then we will come to others in the room.
Paul Livesey
As Professor Goodier said, some planks are absolutely fine. However, what we have here is a perfect storm of contributory factors for a number of planks. As ...
Ivan McKee
SNP
If I am hearing you correctly, the catastrophic nature of the failure is at least as significant an issue as the fact that the stuff can fail—as we know, mos...