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Meeting of the Parliament 20 September 2023

20 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Neonatal Services (Lanarkshire)
Allan, Dr Alasdair SNP Na h-Eileanan an Iar Watch on SPTV

Presiding Officer, you might reasonably ask why a member from the islands is talking about neonatal care in Lanarkshire. However, as members from other parts of the country regularly mention my constituency, as is their right, I make no apology for occasionally straying across the Minch. Before I say anything else, however, I recognise the authoritative and heartfelt contributions that were made by Mark Griffin and Keith Brown, in very fine speeches.

The fact is that the provision of neonatal care is an issue across Scotland, and I am acutely conscious not only of the excellent work that hospitals in my constituency do, but of the many mothers who, for various reasons, already make very long journeys away from their families to have their babies in larger hospitals on the mainland, and have done so for many years.

I am happy to take this opportunity to acknowledge that University hospital Wishaw has provided an extremely high standard of neonatal care. Countless parents are grateful to staff there for supporting them through some of the most challenging, joyful or heartbreaking moments of their lives. The neonatal unit at Wishaw will continue to provide that support and care for parents and babies in the future. The key change, as others have mentioned, is that the most premature or unwell babies will now be cared for at specialised intensive care neonatal units. As others have set out, that model of neonatal intensive care was recommended by the best start report and it was based on clinical evidence that care for babies at the highest risk is safest in units that can treat a higher number of patients. Meanwhile, neonatal units in Dundee, Glasgow, Kirkcaldy and Kilmarnock, as well as Wishaw, will continue to provide neonatal care for their populations.

As a rural MSP, I am in favour of localised healthcare provision wherever it is possible. However, where the expert advice calls for specialist units, it is crucial that patients and their families are fully supported to receive care where it is felt to be clinically most appropriate. Keith Brown alluded to the fact that ensuring the best possible outcomes for patients must be the priority.

The best start report, which was published in 2017, listed 76 recommendations as part of a five-year programme to improve maternal and neonatal services in Scotland. The Scottish Government accepted all those recommendations, including the establishment of a new model of neonatal intensive care. Within the model, the most preterm and the sickest babies will receive specialist complex care in three main centres. That approach is based on evidence showing that babies who are cared for within that kind of framework have improved outcomes.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-10497, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on protecting specialist neonatal services in Lanarkshire. 15:58
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
According to the Scottish Government, 23 babies required the use of the neonatal unit at University hospital Wishaw last year—that is 23 babies who were born...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
In the 75 years of the national health service, we have never stood still and we have adapted our service to meet the needs of the population. I have had the...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Jenni Minto SNP
I have a lot to get through, if the member does not mind. The process of determining which units should be providing neonatal intensive care followed an opt...
Graham Simpson Con
Will the minister take an intervention now?
Jenni Minto SNP
I am not going to take any interventions. Like Jackie Baillie, I welcome the opportunity to congratulate Wishaw General’s neonatal multidisciplinary team on...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the minister give way?
Jenni Minto SNP
I am just coming to the close of my speech. In closing, I would like to give my personal commitment, and that of this Government, to continuing to listen, l...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Unusually for such a brief debate, we have a little bit of time in hand, so members who take an intervention should get the time back. However, the intervent...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
What a cold, managerial speech with no empathy for families that was from the minister. I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ in...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sandesh Gulhane Con
I am just about to finish. The SNP is clearly heavy handed and disregards the nuanced needs of families, which causes distress and discontent. There is a lac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 16:15
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
My daughter Rosa was born on 1 April 2017 at University hospital Wishaw. She was born at 27 weeks gestation, weighing 535g or just one pound and three ounces...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
First, I pay my respects to Mark Griffin’s description of his experience. I also acknowledge that he is the first speaker in the debate who lives in and is a...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Will the member give way?
Keith Brown SNP
My apologies, but I have only four minutes. I do not know why these debates are so short, but I do not have much time to speak. The units for babies born w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you very much, Mr Brown. It is, of course, up to the members whether they take an intervention. These debates usually seem to allow very little time to...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Government’s amendment rightly congratulates the team at Wishaw university hospital on being named UK neonatal team of the year 2023. It is a wo...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to debate maternity services not once but twice today. That shows how important the issue is right across Scotland. I hope that the...
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, you might reasonably ask why a member from the islands is talking about neonatal care in Lanarkshire. However, as members from other parts...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the member give way?
Alasdair Allan SNP
I must make progress given the little time that I have. The Scottish Government has taken many significant steps to support expectant and new parents. Tho...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by expressing my sincere thanks to all those who work in neonatal units across the country and who care for some of the sickest babies born in Scotla...
Meghan Gallacher Con
Does the member agree that the forum should have happened before the decision was taken and that the fact that that did not happen and that they have not bee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Gillian Mackay, I can give you the time back.
Gillian Mackay Green
I agree that it is vital to share all information that can be shared ahead of decisions being made to ensure that we bring communities along with us with the...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Gillian Mackay Green
I need to make some progress. I am genuinely sorry. The report was produced in conjunction with clinicians, and it is worth stating that the recommendation...