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Meeting of the Parliament 20 September 2023

20 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Neonatal Services (Lanarkshire)

The Scottish Government’s amendment rightly congratulates the team at Wishaw university hospital on being named UK neonatal team of the year 2023. It is a wonderful achievement and one that we should all celebrate, but we are in a ridiculous situation in which the Government is praising Wishaw’s neonatal unit in one breath and downgrading it in another. We need the Government to make sense. For the parents, families and healthcare professionals who know the unit inside out, the decision is absurd, out of touch and dangerous.

The Scottish Government will be making a terrible mistake if it allows the neonatal unit at Wishaw to be downgraded. The petition against the plans that has been spearheaded by Lanarkshire mum Lynne McRitchie has already been signed by more than 12,000 people. The widespread community outrage and worry is unsurprising, as Wishaw’s neonatal team are like a second family for so many in our communities.

I thank everyone who has signed the petition and I pay tribute to Lynne McRitchie, who is in the public gallery. We are also joined by Angela Tierney from Blantyre, who told me that the care that the neonatal team provides to babies, including her son Olly, is provided as if the babies were their own children—care is provided with love, compassion and enormous skill. When Angela gave birth to Olly, she was extremely ill and, like Stephanie Griffin, she could not be moved. Olly received excellent care at Wishaw hospital but, sadly, he died. He was only five days old. The memories that Angela, her husband Barry and their family were able to make in their community with Olly will stay with them for ever.

Under the Government plans, Olly would have been transferred from Wishaw and separated from his extremely ill mother, and the Tierney family would have been robbed of precious time with their Olly. The minister and every MSP should think about Olly when we vote tonight. Olly is not a statistic; he was and is a precious member of a loving family and community that continues to fundraise for team Ollybear Blantyre, raising vital funds for Wishaw’s neonatal unit in his memory.

I am so disappointed by the letter that I received from the minister last week in response to our request for a pause and a rethink. Jenni Minto attempts to justify the downgrade by saying,

“This will affect a very small number of families in Lanarkshire.”

She should tell that to the Tierneys, the McRitchies and the Griffins. As we heard from Rosa’s dad—my brilliant colleague Mark Griffin—it is a life-saving unit, and the minister would do well to listen properly to families. I and my colleagues have listened. Members should listen to Lynne McRitchie, who believes that her son Innes would not be alive today if he had been transferred to Glasgow, Edinburgh or Aberdeen. Innes is thriving today, thanks in large part to Wishaw’s neonatal team.

We have heard from Jackie Baillie that the Government’s downgrading plans are having an impact now. Several nurse recruits who had accepted job offers have withdrawn following the publication of the appraisal report in July. NHS Lanarkshire needs support with recruitment and retention, especially in the aftermath of the board’s code black status, but the plans will undermine that.

Do ministers really intend to separate families at a critical and traumatic time? How can the Government claim to be tackling inequality when it is downgrading a vital neonatal unit in one of Scotland’s largest and most deprived health boards? The strength and scale of the community reaction to the proposal should give the Government pause for consideration on whether it really represents the best start. The Government has not properly included families or staff in Lanarkshire. However, it is not too late. It should start listening, fix this flawed process and stop the downgrade of Wishaw’s neonatal unit.

16:28  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-10497, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on protecting specialist neonatal services in Lanarkshire. 15:58
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
According to the Scottish Government, 23 babies required the use of the neonatal unit at University hospital Wishaw last year—that is 23 babies who were born...
The Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health (Jenni Minto) SNP
In the 75 years of the national health service, we have never stood still and we have adapted our service to meet the needs of the population. I have had the...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Jenni Minto SNP
I have a lot to get through, if the member does not mind. The process of determining which units should be providing neonatal intensive care followed an opt...
Graham Simpson Con
Will the minister take an intervention now?
Jenni Minto SNP
I am not going to take any interventions. Like Jackie Baillie, I welcome the opportunity to congratulate Wishaw General’s neonatal multidisciplinary team on...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the minister give way?
Jenni Minto SNP
I am just coming to the close of my speech. In closing, I would like to give my personal commitment, and that of this Government, to continuing to listen, l...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Unusually for such a brief debate, we have a little bit of time in hand, so members who take an intervention should get the time back. However, the intervent...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
What a cold, managerial speech with no empathy for families that was from the minister. I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ in...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sandesh Gulhane Con
I am just about to finish. The SNP is clearly heavy handed and disregards the nuanced needs of families, which causes distress and discontent. There is a lac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 16:15
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
My daughter Rosa was born on 1 April 2017 at University hospital Wishaw. She was born at 27 weeks gestation, weighing 535g or just one pound and three ounces...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
First, I pay my respects to Mark Griffin’s description of his experience. I also acknowledge that he is the first speaker in the debate who lives in and is a...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Will the member give way?
Keith Brown SNP
My apologies, but I have only four minutes. I do not know why these debates are so short, but I do not have much time to speak. The units for babies born w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you very much, Mr Brown. It is, of course, up to the members whether they take an intervention. These debates usually seem to allow very little time to...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Government’s amendment rightly congratulates the team at Wishaw university hospital on being named UK neonatal team of the year 2023. It is a wo...
Meghan Gallacher (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to debate maternity services not once but twice today. That shows how important the issue is right across Scotland. I hope that the...
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, you might reasonably ask why a member from the islands is talking about neonatal care in Lanarkshire. However, as members from other parts...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the member give way?
Alasdair Allan SNP
I must make progress given the little time that I have. The Scottish Government has taken many significant steps to support expectant and new parents. Tho...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
I begin by expressing my sincere thanks to all those who work in neonatal units across the country and who care for some of the sickest babies born in Scotla...
Meghan Gallacher Con
Does the member agree that the forum should have happened before the decision was taken and that the fact that that did not happen and that they have not bee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Gillian Mackay, I can give you the time back.
Gillian Mackay Green
I agree that it is vital to share all information that can be shared ahead of decisions being made to ensure that we bring communities along with us with the...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Gillian Mackay Green
I need to make some progress. I am genuinely sorry. The report was produced in conjunction with clinicians, and it is worth stating that the recommendation...