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Meeting of the Parliament 20 September 2023

20 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scotland’s Nature

In opening the debate, Rhoda Grant referred to the revealing social research report, “Mobilising private investment in natural capital”, which was recently published by the Scottish Government. It confirms everything that she has said about private finance, with its focus on investment in carbon markets and peatland restoration and potentially links in forestry, too. The theory is that, if we plant more trees and restore our peatlands, they will generate large amounts of carbon credits to sell on the open market, paying for green investment and providing a good profit margin.

However, the report makes it clear that the carbon price is nowhere near enough for private investors and that that position is unlikely to change any time soon. The report suggests that public finance should underwrite the risk of the carbon price continuing to fall short, with a minimum of 30 years of public underwriting probably needed but a 50-year commitment perhaps being better. That is a massive commitment.

The report recommends that the grants currently offered to restore peatland be stopped in order to underwrite the future costs of private investment. However, that would result in an increase in the amount of money that would need to be spent from the Scottish Government’s budget. There would have to be, say, a £25 million contingent liability or budget requirement for cash guarantees of well over £1 billion over the suggested 50-year period. There is no free lunch here.

The social research report helpfully goes on to provide instructions on how we could release private finance with a contracts for difference approach. Let us not go there—as we have seen in the past week, that could fail spectacularly. We get dependent on private finance, and then it simply stops delivering until more taxpayer-funded guarantees are offered. What has happened is a timely warning to the Scottish Government.

Let us look at the alternatives for tackling our nature and biodiversity challenges. Rhoda Grant talked about the regulatory changes that we could make—I will add to those ideas. What about refocusing the work of the devolved Crown Estate Scotland? If it had a much clearer climate change challenge focus, it would benefit our communities now, through land purchases, future land holdings and the use of the proceeds from the sales of sea bed leases. Likewise, what more could Forestry and Land Scotland do? Unlike the SNP and Green Government, we would explore all the options for action, not just private green finance.

I want to finish on what needs to happen now. Liam McArthur made the point that we should not underspend our existing budget and that we should make that money work for our communities now. How will the Scottish Government support our rural communities now—our crofters, our farmers and our landowners—in playing a part in the just transition that we urgently need to create jobs and address our climate and biodiversity crisis? Critically, how will it spend the money that is budgeted to create benefits and tackle our climate emergency? On today of all days, the Scottish Government needs not just to talk a good game, but to deliver in practice for all our communities.

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In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-10498, in the name of Rhoda Grant, on protecting Scotland’s nature. I invite those members who wish to pa...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
That urgent action is needed on the climate emergency and its impact is something that unites us all. Rural Scotland is in a strong position to contribute, w...
The Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity (Lorna Slater) Green
I welcome today’s debate. The twin nature and climate emergencies are ever more urgent, and they represent an existential threat that simply cannot be ignore...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
You say that you are making good progress, but you have not even reached 50 per cent of your target that was set out in 2018. Is that good progress?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members should remember to speak through the chair.
Lorna Slater Green
It is indeed good progress. We can see the year-on-year progress and the enormous effort that the sector is making. The growth in the restoration rate reflec...
Lorna Slater Green
No—I am going to make progress. It also means investing more money. To prevent climate disaster, we are all in agreement that the infrastructure investment ...
Rhoda Grant Lab
Did the minister actually look at the document? It contains figures for implementing the right to roam in Scotland, which we have enjoyed for decades, as wel...
Lorna Slater Green
I am absolutely familiar with that document and with the assumptions that are in it. Rhoda Grant is quite right that there are assumptions in the document. T...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Lorna Slater Green
I am sorry—I am running out of time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is about to conclude, because she is over time.
Lorna Slater Green
We will, therefore, ensure that those plans are informed by the on-going debate over how we ensure that investment in nature supports our land reform agenda,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you need to conclude and move your amendment.
Lorna Slater Green
At the 26th UN climate change conference of the parties—COP26—in Glasgow, we announced the new multiyear funding for nature restoration—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, I asked you to conclude and move your amendment. Please do so now.
Lorna Slater Green
I apologise. I move amendment S6M-10498, to leave out from first “regrets” to end and insert: “affirms its commitment to the Global Biodiversity Framework,...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a partner in J Halcro-Johnston and Sons, which is an organic farming business; the owner...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the member give way?
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
I am sorry, but it is a short debate. I have only four minutes, and I am opening for the Conservatives. The Scottish National Party-Green Government has no...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As the proud species champion of the Scottish primrose, I very much welcome the fact that the Parliament is debating Scotland’s twin crises on climate and na...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
In opening the debate, Rhoda Grant referred to the revealing social research report, “Mobilising private investment in natural capital”, which was recently p...
Colin Beattie (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to take part in the debate, albeit with a more positive view than our Labour colleagues. Much has been done by the Scottish Governm...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
What we are holding the SNP-Green Government to account for this afternoon is its relationship with big capital. Under the Green Finance Institute—“backed by...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
As we have heard today, our natural environment is in a perilous condition. Scotland might be one of the most beautiful countries in the world, but it is als...
The Minister for Energy and the Environment (Gillian Martin) SNP
I actually agree with Maurice Golden. Does he agree with me that, when things that put into place actions to get us to net zero targets come to Parliament fo...
Maurice Golden Con
Yes. Alongside targets, we need robust means of holding the Scottish Government to account. A dedicated Scottish environmental court would be one such mecha...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I will start on a point of agreement with the Labour motion. Despite Sir Keir Starmer’s telling his shadow cabinet, “I hate tree huggers,” in response to a p...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Emma Harper SNP
We do not have time for interventions in these wee, four-minute time slots. I am interested in promoting the peatland restoration work that is taking place ...