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Meeting of the Parliament 20 September 2023

20 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scotland’s Nature

As the proud species champion of the Scottish primrose, I very much welcome the fact that the Parliament is debating Scotland’s twin crises on climate and nature, and I am grateful to Rhoda Grant and her Labour colleagues for allowing us a further opportunity to do so. The subject is one to which we frequently return in debates, statements and questions in this chamber—and that is a good thing.

However, it would also be a good thing if we were not in a holding pattern. As the perilous state of our climate worsens and the need to address emissions and biodiversity loss becomes ever more urgent, the Scottish Government’s response has too often lacked focus, detail and urgency. By way of example, Rhoda Grant’s motion is right to note that Scotland is falling short of realising its significant potential in carbon sequestration. It comes on the back of years of targets for woodland generation and peatland restoration being missed—by some margin, on occasion. As concerning as that is, the fact that budgets in those areas appear to have been underspent beggars belief, and the confusion now about the extent of the funding gap, as well as questions over the method of plugging that gap, does not inspire confidence.

As members have said, it all comes against the backdrop of the Government missing its wider targets on emissions reductions. The targets might very well be world leading, but that only matters if there is a credible plan for their delivery. That has been a constant criticism of the Government’s approach from the UK Climate Change Committee, with Lord Deben and his colleagues all but begging Scottish ministers to detail how they plan to meet their targets. Meanwhile, just this week, Scotland’s council leaders sent out a stark warning that, without adequate funding and direction from Government, Scotland will continue to miss its climate targets.

There is an established pattern here. Announcements are made to grab headlines and shape a narrative, but seldom is the hard work done to figure out and explain how commitments will be delivered in practice. When failure can always be blamed on others, whether that be the UK Government, Opposition parties, local councils or the constitutional settlement, the incentive to invest in the painstaking work of delivery simply evaporates. On transport, heat and agriculture—the areas in which the need for emissions reductions are most pronounced—the Government must detail how it plans to support a just transition. In the meantime, with one in nine species in Scotland threatened with national extinction, ministers seem happy to launch another consultation on a biodiversity strategy that was supposed to have been implemented six months ago.

As for the carbon credit scheme, Rhoda Grant is right to express concern. Given the apparent lack of regulatory oversight, our former Green colleague, Andy Wightman, is correct to suggest that the proposals to sell off Scotland’s woodlands are “highly questionable”.

All in all, as I have said in previous debates, our climate ambitions might be world leading, but the Government’s delivery is world lagging. The Scottish Liberal Democrats will work with ministers and other partners on detailed proposals targeting the twin emergencies, but time is quite clearly running out.

15:12  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-10498, in the name of Rhoda Grant, on protecting Scotland’s nature. I invite those members who wish to pa...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
That urgent action is needed on the climate emergency and its impact is something that unites us all. Rural Scotland is in a strong position to contribute, w...
The Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity (Lorna Slater) Green
I welcome today’s debate. The twin nature and climate emergencies are ever more urgent, and they represent an existential threat that simply cannot be ignore...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
You say that you are making good progress, but you have not even reached 50 per cent of your target that was set out in 2018. Is that good progress?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members should remember to speak through the chair.
Lorna Slater Green
It is indeed good progress. We can see the year-on-year progress and the enormous effort that the sector is making. The growth in the restoration rate reflec...
Lorna Slater Green
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Rhoda Grant Lab
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Lorna Slater Green
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Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Lorna Slater Green
I am sorry—I am running out of time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is about to conclude, because she is over time.
Lorna Slater Green
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you need to conclude and move your amendment.
Lorna Slater Green
At the 26th UN climate change conference of the parties—COP26—in Glasgow, we announced the new multiyear funding for nature restoration—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, I asked you to conclude and move your amendment. Please do so now.
Lorna Slater Green
I apologise. I move amendment S6M-10498, to leave out from first “regrets” to end and insert: “affirms its commitment to the Global Biodiversity Framework,...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a partner in J Halcro-Johnston and Sons, which is an organic farming business; the owner...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the member give way?
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
I am sorry, but it is a short debate. I have only four minutes, and I am opening for the Conservatives. The Scottish National Party-Green Government has no...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As the proud species champion of the Scottish primrose, I very much welcome the fact that the Parliament is debating Scotland’s twin crises on climate and na...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Colin Beattie (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) SNP
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Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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The Minister for Energy and the Environment (Gillian Martin) SNP
I actually agree with Maurice Golden. Does he agree with me that, when things that put into place actions to get us to net zero targets come to Parliament fo...
Maurice Golden Con
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Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Emma Harper SNP
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