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Meeting of the Parliament 14 September 2023

14 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Single-use Vapes (Environmental Impact)
Ruskell, Mark Green Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I join others in thanking Gillian Mackay for her leadership on the issue inside and outside of Parliament. She has worked with tireless campaigners such as Laura Young and the many health and environmental groups and organisations that back the call for a ban on disposable vapes.

Whenever change is proposed in this Parliament, particularly on increased regulation, we often get calls of “Catastrophe!” from whatever vested interest is resistant to the change. However, what is really striking about the call to restrict vapes is that there is not much of a debate at all; there is a lot of unanimity on the issue. I am the 10th speaker in the debate, and every speech so far has backed the call for a ban on disposable vapes. I am sure that that point will not be lost on the minister in closing the debate.

That unanimity is all the more remarkable because there has been a huge lobbying effort from the vaping industry over the past five years in this Parliament. Brian Whittle talked about his experiences of how that has played out, and I, too, went through several years of seeing constant requests in my inbox from public relations firms fronting up vaping companies that wanted to meet me.

It is probably because vape products are so uniquely problematic that we have that unanimity of concern. That is why 29 out of the 32 local authorities across Scotland have passed motions calling for vapes to be banned or controlled. If you wanted to sit down and design a cheap disposable product that litters the countryside with plastics, electronics and batteries, causes a fire risk, cannot be recycled or reused and puts young people at risk of bronchitis, breathing problems and nicotine addiction, it would be the perfect target for a ban, but that is exactly what disposable vapes are. As lawmakers, we are still catching up with the reality of that.

It is clear that communities are seeing the impact everywhere—for example, Fife Street Champions picked up 664 disposable vapes in one month this spring. A Keep Scotland Beautiful survey shows that 44 per cent of people see disposable vapes littering their communities far more often. I am sure that many of the coastal communities that will be involved in the Marine Conservation Society beach cleans in the next week will see increasing numbers of vapes on their beaches.

All that builds up to the staggering national picture that we have heard about in the debate. Zero Waste Scotland estimate that 2.7 million vapes were littered in Scotland last year alone. That is hardly surprising, given that there has been an 18-fold increase in the use of disposable vapes from one year to the next.

The health impacts on young people are truly concerning, precisely because we do not know what kind of ticking time bomb exists here—a point that was made very well by Rona Mackay. This is yet another example of why following the precautionary principle is so important. Corporate interests should not be allowed to mess around with the unknown long-term health of our children, just because there is a big short-term market opportunity.

I again thank Gillian Mackay for leading this debate, and I certainly look forward to the minister’s response on what the next steps in banning vapes in Scotland and across the rest of the UK will be.

13:30  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-10284, in the name of Gillian Mackay, on the environmental impact of single-use vapes. ...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
I recognise the strength of feeling on the issue in the Parliament and I thank everyone who will contribute today. The fact that we are so tight on time is h...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I welcome this important debate, and I thank my colleague Gillian Mackay for bringing it to the chamber. The motion for the debate and Gillian Mackay’s openi...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am pleased to contribute to the debate. I congratulate Gillian Mackay on securing the debate and acknowledge her work in this area. Many members here in t...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin as other members have by congratulating Gillian Mackay on securing this members’ business debate on the environmental impacts of single-use vapes and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude, Ms Villalba.
Mercedes Villalba Lab
Okay. Twenty-six councils now support a ban, along with a range of organisations, so—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I must ask you to stop, Ms Villalba. I indicated at the beginning of the debate that I would rigorously enforce the time limits to give everyone a chance to ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
I, too, congratulate Gillian Mackay on securing debating time on this vital matter. Just after the debate began, I received an answer to a written question ...
Gillian Mackay Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Kenneth Gibson SNP
Sadly, I will not. I would love to but, unfortunately, I have only four minutes. Given that it is estimated that 76,000 under-18s in Scotland vape and that ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude, Mr Gibson.
Kenneth Gibson SNP
—to re-establish ourselves as a leading public health nation. I support the motion. 13:10
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I join members in thanking Gillian Mackay for bringing the debate to the chamber. It is an issue that I have spoken about before, and it is one of real conce...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank Gillian Mackay for securing the debate, and I thank members from across the chamber for their contributions, which have covered many aspects of...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am conscious that a large number of members still wish to participate in the debate. I am minded to accept a motion without notice under rule 8.14.3 to ext...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
With the discipline that members have shown in speaking, I should be able to protect the four minutes of the remaining members. I call Colin Smyth for up to ...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Gillian Mackay for introducing her motion. The great vape debate is often, “Are e-cigarettes saving smokers or creating new addicts?” The reality i...
Gillian Mackay Green
The paediatrician who we heard from at the round table on Monday raised the concern that we are trading two health-harming products off against each other, r...
Colin Smyth Lab
I absolutely accept that and, as we have heard from a number of members, it is also important to note that we face a growing avalanche of children and young ...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, thank you for doing your absolute best to make sure that we all get to make a contribution today. I also thank Gillian Mackay for bringing...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I join others in thanking Gillian Mackay for her leadership on the issue inside and outside of Parliament. She has worked with tireless campaigners such as L...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I, too, congratulate my colleague Gillian Mackay on securing what is obviously a hugely important debate, given the number of MSPs who are speaking in it. I...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude, Ms Harper.
Emma Harper SNP
I am on my last sentence, Presiding Officer. I was just going to thank Gillian Mackay again.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Carol Mochan is the last speaker in the open debate. You have up to four minutes, Ms Mochan. 13:34
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As others have done, I take the opportunity to thank Gillian Mackay for bringing the debate to the chamber. It is a really important issue, as members have m...
The Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity (Lorna Slater) Green
I join my fellow members in congratulating Gillian Mackay on securing the debate and in thanking her for her on-going campaigning on the issue. In the contr...
Brian Whittle Con
It occurs to me that, if we get to where we want to be with a ban, we will have a problem with children who are already addicted to nicotine. What can we do,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, I can give you the time back.