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Meeting of the Parliament 13 September 2023

13 Sep 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Short-term Lets Licensing Scheme
Fraser, Murdo Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

Mr Johnson is absolutely correct to raise that issue. As of August, 84 per cent of short-term lets had not applied for a licence. That suggests that there is a major issue with people not being aware of the requirement. I have heard anecdotally—I am sure that others in the chamber have, too—of operators, including people who operate bed and breakfasts, simply not being aware of it. They are simply not aware that the regulations are coming in and that they are required to comply with them. After 1 October, they will potentially be committing an offence if they have not applied.

There was never any need for a one-size-fits-all approach to legislation. It would have been perfectly possible for the Scottish Government to have devolved to local councils the right to draw up rules for their own areas. Those with a history of complaints about the operation of self-catering lets would then have had the opportunity to take a different approach from those in other, perhaps more rural, areas, where self-catering lets have been operating as part of the tourist sector for decades more without any problems appearing. It is a source of regret that the Scottish Government decided to introduce a national scheme instead of letting councils have the discretion whether to introduce it locally.

Those who support the legislation would argue that a proliferation of short-term lets drives up housing costs, reduces affordability and contributes to a cost of housing crisis. I point them to the analysis done by the Fraser of Allander Institute of the legislation’s business and regulatory impact assessment; it reveals that the Scottish Government has made no attempt to quantify the number of properties that might be released from secondary letting and then made available as permanent homes as a result of the licensing scheme. In the words of the Fraser of Allander Institute, section E of the BRIA is

“notable for the absence of any quantification of impacts.”

The headline figures quoted for the numbers involved in short-term lets include those who rent out their spare rooms, and surely it must be highly unlikely that, should they cease that activity, they will be selling up and thus providing additional accommodation for those who are currently seeking it.

Such anecdotal information as we have to date supports the view that there will be no boom in affordable properties as a consequence of the legislation. In The Herald just last week, Mark Tate, chief executive of the Cairngorms Chamber of Commerce, stated that, of the 16 properties in his area that he was aware of that had so far withdrawn from the market as a result of the new rules, 12 had become second homes. Those properties have gone from being economically active for 35 to 40 weeks of the year, occupied by people who are coming to visit and who put money into the economy, to being occupied for no more than two to three weeks in the year. It is the worst possible outcome.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-10411, in the name of Murdo Fraser, on pausing the short-term lets licensing scheme. I invite those membe...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The tourism sector is vitally important for Scotland. It is the largest part of our economy in terms of employment and is particularly important in remote an...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I think that the member is right about those who might be making that choice, but many operators simply do not know that the regulation applies to them. When...
Murdo Fraser Con
Mr Johnson is absolutely correct to raise that issue. As of August, 84 per cent of short-term lets had not applied for a licence. That suggests that there is...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Does the member agree that the Government is wilfully ignoring the very real fears of those operating in the short-term lets sector? Is he aware of the case ...
The Minister for Housing (Paul McLennan) SNP
That—Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Excuse me. The minister would be intervening on the member, not on me.
Murdo Fraser Con
I should say to the minister—I will give way to him in a second—that I met Linda last week and the story that she told me was actually even worse than the on...
Paul McLennan SNP
I met the constituent who was mentioned and agreed to try to help them. I asked for additional information, which was never received. That is noted. That is ...
Murdo Fraser Con
Well, there was no apology there from the minister to Linda for his member of staff telling her that she can go on benefits because this Government is going ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members— Paul McLennan rose—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr McLennan, please take your seat. I was just reminding members—Interruption. Minister, please resume your seat. I remind members that they should be liste...
Murdo Fraser Con
I will happily take another intervention if I have time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am afraid that you do not have time to take another intervention, but you have a bit of latitude as you have already taken three interventions. You are ove...
Murdo Fraser Con
Thank you. I apologise to the minister as I am not permitted to take his further intervention, but we will hear from him in a moment. No one in this debate ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Fraser. I advise that we have some time in hand at the moment. Therefore, where interventions are taken, I have a bit more latitude to give tim...
The Minister for Housing (Paul McLennan) SNP
The point that I wanted to make in a further intervention was that Mr Fraser did not mention the 23-year high in completions that the Scottish Government has...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Will the minister give way?
Paul McLennan SNP
I will once I have made some progress. The introduction of licensing safeguards the role that short-term lets play in our economy by providing assurance to ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
Paul McLennan SNP
I want to make some progress first. I will take an intervention in a second. I also want to make it clear that, although there are thousands of good-quality...
Daniel Johnson Lab
It is important that we have clarity in the terms of the debate. At the beginning of his speech, the minister talked about tackling the growth in short-term ...
Paul McLennan SNP
Of course. There are short-term let control areas, which I will touch on later. That is part of the much broader debate, but we are talking about licensing, ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Paul McLennan SNP
At this point, I ask the member to let me make some progress. Local authorities stand ready to support applicants, having already accommodated a six-month d...
Daniel Johnson Lab
It was about growth.
Paul McLennan SNP
I ask the member to let me complete the point. He was shot down by his Labour councillor colleagues. Every single Labour colleague had a go at him in that re...
Miles Briggs Con
The minister talks about colleagues. His Scottish National Party colleague Tommy Sheppard has said: “This isn’t about home sharing—where people let out thei...
Paul McLennan SNP
Thank you, Mr Briggs. You will remember, as you were part of that committee at the same time, that I had spoken to the festivals about that issue before I be...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you need to speak through the chair. Otherwise, you are referring to me, and I had nothing to do with it.