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Meeting of the Parliament 21 June 2023

21 Jun 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Chapman, Maggie Green North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

Before I speak to my amendments in this group, I would like to thank the victim support organisations and others who have worked tirelessly to ensure that the voices of victims and survivors are heard in this process. I appreciate that we will not all agree on everything today, but I am grateful to them for their insight and expertise. I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests.

Amendments 15, 16 and 21 focus on the new victim safety element of the proposed bail test. Throughout the scrutiny process, I have listened carefully to the voices of victims organisations, which rightly wish to ensure that the court has the fullest possible information about victims’ safety concerns at the time of making a bail decision, including decisions on special conditions of bail.

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Amendment 15 aims to strengthen that area. In particular, it would add to the court’s general power to seek further information that is relevant to the bail decision from the prosecutor, the legal representative of the accused or, as amended by the bill, justice social work by expressly enabling the court to ask the prosecutor to provide it with information on the risk of harm to the complainer.

Amendment 15 would make clear the situations in which victim safety is a relevant consideration in a case before the court, such as cases of domestic abuse or sexual offending. The court could then ask the prosecutor for additional information to help it to make a determination on bail. The amendment would also serve to emphasise to the court the importance of the victim safety element of the new bail test and of being as fully informed as possible when making bail decisions.

Amendments 16 and 21 are consequential on amendment 15. Amendment 16 is a technical amendment that will be necessary if amendment 15 is accepted. It would make minor and technical amendments to section 1(3)(c) to reflect that section 23B(7) of the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995 will no longer immediately follow section 23B(6). Amendment 21 would amend the definitional power in section 2(2)(c) of the bill to ensure that the definitions of complainer harm and psychological harm also apply for the purpose of the new section 23B(6A) that I am proposing to be inserted into the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995. I ask members to support amendments 15, 16 and 21.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Group 1 is on “Decisions on bail: relevant information”. Amendment 67, in the name of Pauline McNeill, is grouped with amendments 15, 16, 68, 19, 20 and 21.
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The focus of the bill is to limit custody to those who pose a risk to public safety or to when it is necessary to prevent significant risk of prejudice. Ther...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
Before I speak to my amendments in this group, I would like to thank the victim support organisations and others who have worked tirelessly to ensure that th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Katy Clark to speak to amendment 68 and other amendments in the group.
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Amendment 68 focuses on the resources that local authorities need to provide justice social work. It requires the Scottish Government to report on the operat...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Jamie Greene to speak to amendment 19 and other amendments in the group.
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I put on the record my and my party’s thanks to all those organisations that have worked with committee members and others during the passage of the bill. T...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs (Angela Constance) SNP
I will speak to all the amendments in the group. Amendment 67, from Pauline McNeill, seeks to remove the mandatory requirement for the court to provide an o...
Jamie Greene Con
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for explaining the Government’s position. However, I pose the scenario of a busy custody court. I do not understand ho...
Angela Constance SNP
The whole purpose of section 1 of the bill is to ensure that the court has the best possible information available to it. Notwithstanding that prosecutors ar...
Pauline McNeill Lab
I agree with the cabinet secretary that the principle of providing the maximum amount of information to the court is very important, but I do not think that ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The question is, that amendment 67 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There will be a division. As this is the first division of the day, I will suspend the meeting for around five minutes to allow members to access the digital...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We will now restart proceedings, and we will proceed with the division on amendment 67. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is now closed.
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect, but I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Whittle; that will be recorded.
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect but would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Bibby; your vote will be recorded. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The result of the division is: For 46, Against 66, Abstentions 0. Amendment 67 disagreed to. Amendment 15 moved—Maggie Chapman—and agreed to. Amendment 16...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The question is, that amendment 16 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There will be a division. The vote is now closed.
The Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My device would not work. I would have voted yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Dey. Your vote will be recorded.
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not work. I would have voted no.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms Hamilton. Your vote will be recorded. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Moth...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The result of the division is: For 67, Against 47, Abstentions 0. Amendment 16 agreed to. After section 1
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call amendment 68, in the name of Katy Clark, which has already been debated with amendment 67. I invite Katy Clark to move or not move the amendment.
Katy Clark Lab
I move amendment 68, which has the support of organisations such as the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. The provision of justice social work and th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Ms Clark. We do not need that; we just need the moving of the amendment. The question is, that amendment 68 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members...