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Meeting of the Parliament 14 June 2023

14 Jun 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Caledonian MacBrayne Services (Resilience Fund)

I welcome this important debate and I speak in support of my Labour colleague Michael Marra’s motion.

As Michael Marra said, Scotland’s islanders are right to be angry, dismayed and frustrated, because they simply do not have the ferry service that they need or deserve. They have been failed and they have been let down. Given that fact and the recent and damaging disruption to island businesses in particular, it is only right that those businesses receive the compensation that they need and deserve.

It is little wonder that we have seen protests recently on South Uist, and we know that the same anger and frustration is felt in other islands across Scotland, including in Arran in my West Scotland region. I have spoken to businesses, particularly food producers, who are in despair. Delays to ferries cost them thousands of pounds a day and could cost jobs in the long term.

Let us not talk around the key issue behind why we are here. The number 1 reason—the main reason by far—why islanders do not have a reliable ferry service is that CalMac does not have a reliable ferry fleet. In addition to being unreliable, it is an ageing fleet: 38 per cent of vessels are more than 30 years old and over the recommended lifespan for a ferry.

That flies in the face of the First Minister’s claim last week about the SNP’s investment in ferries. Let us look at the outcomes. Over the SNP’s time in office, only six ferries have been built—six in 16 years. Compare that with the 10 ferries that were built by the previous Labour-Liberal Democrat Government in half that time—10 in eight years. Even Margaret Thatcher’s Government built more new CalMac ferries than this Government has. Its record is shameful.

There is a plenty of blame to go round for the whole ferries fiasco, but the Scottish Government cannot blame anyone else for its abject failure to provide new ferries. It cannot blame CalMac, it certainly cannot blame the Ferguson’s workforce and it cannot blame the previous Government for its failure to provide decent ferries for our islands.

Given that this is the Government’s fault, the least that it could do now is adequately compensate island businesses whose futures are at real risk. It is time for the Government to take responsibility. I say that because it appears, day in, day out, that the Government is desperate not to take responsibility but to deflect blame elsewhere.

To be clear, CMAL and CalMac are not entirely blameless, but it is not their job, and it is certainly not the job of their workers when dealing with angry passengers, to take the flak for the Government’s overall procurement failure. The project Neptune report has been part of the deflection strategy. We need to look at how governance and structures best work and how we best run our ferries, but that cannot, and must not, distract us from the fact that the Government has not built enough ferries.

One clear commitment in relation to project Neptune from the former transport minister was to rule out privatisation. It is hard to see how the current situation could be made worse, but the privatisation of CalMac would do that. That should also be ruled out by the new transport minister.

On taking responsibility, I wish the new transport minister, Fiona Hyslop, and the new transport secretary, Màiri McAllan, well, as I do Kevin Stewart. However, I say to them what I said to Neil Gray last week: the ministerial merry-go-round needs to stop. There was a time when ministers could not get down to Ferguson’s quick enough for a photo op; now, ministers cannot wait to get ferries out of their portfolio and to buy themselves time with nice platitudes.

Real responsibility would be a Government minister standing up in the chamber, staking their reputation on fixing this mess and saying that they will not leave until the job is done. Because of the current fiasco, we face a situation in which our ferry network is in crisis and we are having to build ferries in Turkey. We are also—

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-09463, in the name of Michael Marra, on a resilience fund for CalMac disruption. I would be grateful if m...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The motion that we have put forward has a simple ask of this Government: to establish a resilience fund for businesses that are affected by the disruption to...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Màiri McAllan to speak to and move amendment S6M-09463.2. 16:08
The Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition (Màiri McAllan) SNP
Before beginning, I would like to welcome Fiona Hyslop to her new post. She brings an enormous amount of experience to the role, and I am really pleased to b...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will give way briefly, but I have a lot that I would like to get through.
Paul Sweeney Lab
Does the cabinet secretary accept that other fleets of similar vintages operate with much greater resilience than is shown in the CalMac fleet? Why is there ...
Màiri McAllan SNP
Mr Sweeney’s comments come on the back of my full recognition of the need to improve CalMac’s reliability and rebuild confidence in the fleet, so that should...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I think that members are interested in how the Government, rather than CalMac, will respond to the demonstrations on South Uist.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I have just started to address the two aspects of the Government’s plan and to set out what we will do, in our gift, to address the issue. I am not at all sh...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am afraid that I do not have time—I am exceptionally short on time. The contract that we have in place with CalMac allows us to make penalty deductions wh...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Michael Marra Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am very conscious of time.
The Presiding Officer NPA
I must ask the cabinet secretary to conclude. We are very tight for time.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will leave it there. I hope that my colleague the Minister for Small Business, Innovation and Trade will be able to cover any other points. I move amendme...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Graham Simpson to speak to and move amendment S6M-09463.1. 16:14
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I am afraid that I did not hear any kind of plan there. I thank Labour for bringing the debate to the chamber; we will support its motion, of course. In Ma...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I am certainly content with what I can hear; the sound is audible.
Graham Simpson Con
Okay, I will carry on. Mr Stewart was just minutes into the job when I asked him an urgent question about what the Government was doing to restore ferry ser...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I am pleased to note that transport has been restored to Cabinet level; it should never have been removed. I take this opportunity to welcome Fiona Hyslop to...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:22
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome this important debate and I speak in support of my Labour colleague Michael Marra’s motion. As Michael Marra said, Scotland’s islanders are right ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We are very tight for time, Mr Bibby, so I must ask you to conclude.
Neil Bibby Lab
Okay. In closing, I say that warm words from the Government mean nothing and do nothing for island communities, unless the Government is willing to put its ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
—a proper resilience fund to compensate businesses. 16:27
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
We all know about, and we have quite rightly rehearsed today, the problems facing the CalMac network. There are not enough ships. The ships that are there ar...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I hear what Alasdair Allan says about islands requiring ferries and how they differ in their capacities, but does he agree that one of the most invidious thi...