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Meeting of the Parliament 14 June 2023

14 Jun 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Caledonian MacBrayne Services (Resilience Fund)

I am pleased to note that transport has been restored to Cabinet level; it should never have been removed. I take this opportunity to welcome Fiona Hyslop to her new role as transport minister.

I thank Michael Marra for bringing this important debate and motion to the chamber. Scottish Liberal Democrats will support the motion at decision time, as well as the Conservative Party amendment. It is the right thing to do to compensate islanders who have been left high and dry as a consequence of their lifeline ferry service failing to meet their needs. The motion calls for resilience funding for compensation, to come from

“penalties imposed on Caledonian MacBrayne for breaches of its contract with Transport Scotland.”

The hundreds of people in South Uist protesting earlier this month about CalMac’s decision to cancel most ferry sailings to Mallaig for the reminder of June will be a lasting image of the frustration at the Scottish Government’s self-inflicted ferry fiasco. The thinking seems to be that the impact can be measured in numbers. The logic seems to be that it is a small community, so there will be small impact. In fact, the opposite is true, because there is a disproportionately large impact on smaller communities: the missed hospital appointments, missed weddings and missed funerals and the loss of income for accommodation providers—when bookings are cancelled because visitors cannot get to the islands—and for retailers who have no stock. It is a threat to the island way of life.

I welcome reports that CalMac will review its route prioritisation matrix, but the cynic in me suggests that it is doing so now only because the islanders’ demonstration hit national headlines. There is much that must be done to repair the damage and loss of trust. As Michael Marra observed, the hundreds of people who protested in South Uist would equate to 180,000 people in Edinburgh. If comparable numbers of cars were parked nose to tail to show disappointment at transport decisions that affected people’s lives in the capital, the Government would not be able to ignore the chaos.

The scale of protests in South Uist shows the strength of feeling about being isolated—even trapped—the sense of injustice on the part of businesses that face losses and the anger that is felt about the fact that the company at the heart of these issues is getting yet more taxpayer cash. There is a sense that the Scottish Government and Transport Scotland do not fully understand the needs of islanders, the critical need for connectivity and the interdependency.

The SNP-Green Government needs to look beyond the central belt. Island communities feel as though they have been abandoned. Depopulation is a serious concern in Scotland’s islands and rural areas. The handling of the ferry fiasco and the lack of accountability on the part of the Government show that the concerns of islanders are distant to ministers. We face the collapse of communities in island areas if ferries are not operating and service is not improved.

The response to the situation has shown that the Government’s response to depopulation is lip service at best. What is needed is long-term thinking about the ferry fleet capacity and resilience, a rolling plan for the replacement of old ferries, innovation in the build and other needed functions and a move away from thinking that the impacts on island populations will be small. Islands and those who live on them are very much part of Scotland, geographically, culturally and socially. Islanders are no less important than those who live on mainland Scotland. It is critical that we get transport connectivity right, whether that is ferries, buses or—dare I say it?—tunnels, and everything else will fall into place.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-09463, in the name of Michael Marra, on a resilience fund for CalMac disruption. I would be grateful if m...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The motion that we have put forward has a simple ask of this Government: to establish a resilience fund for businesses that are affected by the disruption to...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Màiri McAllan to speak to and move amendment S6M-09463.2. 16:08
The Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition (Màiri McAllan) SNP
Before beginning, I would like to welcome Fiona Hyslop to her new post. She brings an enormous amount of experience to the role, and I am really pleased to b...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will give way briefly, but I have a lot that I would like to get through.
Paul Sweeney Lab
Does the cabinet secretary accept that other fleets of similar vintages operate with much greater resilience than is shown in the CalMac fleet? Why is there ...
Màiri McAllan SNP
Mr Sweeney’s comments come on the back of my full recognition of the need to improve CalMac’s reliability and rebuild confidence in the fleet, so that should...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I think that members are interested in how the Government, rather than CalMac, will respond to the demonstrations on South Uist.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I have just started to address the two aspects of the Government’s plan and to set out what we will do, in our gift, to address the issue. I am not at all sh...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am afraid that I do not have time—I am exceptionally short on time. The contract that we have in place with CalMac allows us to make penalty deductions wh...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Michael Marra Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I am very conscious of time.
The Presiding Officer NPA
I must ask the cabinet secretary to conclude. We are very tight for time.
Màiri McAllan SNP
I will leave it there. I hope that my colleague the Minister for Small Business, Innovation and Trade will be able to cover any other points. I move amendme...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Graham Simpson to speak to and move amendment S6M-09463.1. 16:14
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I am afraid that I did not hear any kind of plan there. I thank Labour for bringing the debate to the chamber; we will support its motion, of course. In Ma...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I am certainly content with what I can hear; the sound is audible.
Graham Simpson Con
Okay, I will carry on. Mr Stewart was just minutes into the job when I asked him an urgent question about what the Government was doing to restore ferry ser...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I am pleased to note that transport has been restored to Cabinet level; it should never have been removed. I take this opportunity to welcome Fiona Hyslop to...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:22
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome this important debate and I speak in support of my Labour colleague Michael Marra’s motion. As Michael Marra said, Scotland’s islanders are right ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We are very tight for time, Mr Bibby, so I must ask you to conclude.
Neil Bibby Lab
Okay. In closing, I say that warm words from the Government mean nothing and do nothing for island communities, unless the Government is willing to put its ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
—a proper resilience fund to compensate businesses. 16:27
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
We all know about, and we have quite rightly rehearsed today, the problems facing the CalMac network. There are not enough ships. The ships that are there ar...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I hear what Alasdair Allan says about islands requiring ferries and how they differ in their capacities, but does he agree that one of the most invidious thi...