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Meeting of the Parliament 17 May 2023

17 May 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Mental Health Crisis
Todd, Maree SNP Caithness, Sutherland and Ross Watch on SPTV

Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer.

As always with Audit Scotland reports, I am confident that the Government will read with interest and take on board the comments that are made.

We have seen historic increases in spending. It is a fact that the Scottish Government’s core mental health budget has more than doubled since 2020-21. There has been extraordinary work, some of it behind the scenes, by boards to clear long waits. In the past quarter alone, the number of children who were waiting for more than 52 weeks for child and adolescent mental health services decreased by 42 per cent, and the number who were waiting for more than 18 weeks decreased by 32 per cent. That unseen work has set the conditions for the most sustained, positive changes in CAMHS waiting lists for more than half a decade, and the number of children who started treatment from CAMHS in the most recent quarter is comfortably the highest figure on record.

As I mentioned, our focus cannot be just on specialist services. Over the past two years, we have invested £30 million to establish community-based mental health and wellbeing services for children, young people and their families. More than 45,000 people accessed those services between July and December last year, which reduced inappropriate referrals to specialist services. We have also invested £36 million in our communities mental health and wellbeing fund for adults over the past two years, and a further £15 million has been announced for 2023-24.

I will touch briefly on one specific part of the original motion, which Jackie Baillie raised in her opening speech. The motion refers to an increase in NHS 24 call volumes. Yes, calls are consistently up, but that is for a range of reasons. We have moved the mental health hub to a 24/7 service. More people know that the service exists, because we have signposted to it, as well as to a range of other supports, through our “Mind to Mind” website. It is not just about the volume of the calls but about how we respond to the calls.? We have backed NHS 24 with more than £9 million of funding since 2021 to ensure a quality service for everyone. I gently say that we should all take care to avoid using language that could stigmatise those who ask for help.

Are there areas where we need to make more progress more quickly? Yes—absolutely. We have exceeded our commitment to fund more than 800 additional mental health workers, many of whom are working in primary care and community settings, but we know that we need to further enhance the support that is available in primary care. We have had to make difficult decisions on the basis of our current financial situation, but that does not mean that that area is not still a priority.

More generally, we have signalled that, by the end of this parliamentary session, 10 per cent of NHS expenditure should be on mental health and 1 per cent should be on CAMHS.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-08955, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on tackling Scotland’s mental health crisis. I invite members who w...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
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The Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
I thank Jackie Baillie for bringing this debate on mental health awareness week to the chamber. Mental health is a fundamentally important topic for all part...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Does the minister recognise that the concern goes far beyond mere frustration, that access to those services is sometimes impossible and that diagnosis of th...
Maree Todd SNP
I do not agree with that characterisation of the situation that we are in. I acknowledge that some children have been waiting too long for child and adolesce...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Maree Todd SNP
I really must make some progress, because I have time for only a short opening speech. We will publish the accompanying delivery and workforce plans after t...
Sue Webber Con
Audit Scotland will publish its report on adult mental health services next month. Is the minister confident that the report will be positive for the Governm...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, I can give you a bit of time back.
Maree Todd SNP
Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. As always with Audit Scotland reports, I am confident that the Government will read with interest and take on...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The minister is concluding. Minister, you need to wind up.
Maree Todd SNP
In my closing minutes, we know that boards face—
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
No, you are concluding, minister.
Maree Todd SNP
We know that boards face a range of pressures but, equally, spending needs to ensure parity between mental and physical health. Our workforce across service...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
No, minister—you must conclude and move your amendment.
Maree Todd SNP
Okay. In the spirit of realistic but ambitious improvement, I move amendment S6M-08955.3, to leave out from first “and” to end and insert: “; understands th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, minister. There really is very little time in hand, so members will have to stick to their allocated speaking times. I call Sue Webber to speak t...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Ms Webber, you must conclude.
Sue Webber Con
I thought that I had five minutes. I move amendment S6M-08955.1, to insert at end: “; raises the issue of increased levels of mental illness among NHS staf...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Apologies—I know that there is a lot of interest and a willingness to engage in the debate, but these short debates do not allow for that and I need to prote...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I will be brief. I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in the debate and I thank Jackie Baillie for bringing it to the cha...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Clare Haughey (Rutherglen) (SNP) SNP
I remind members that I am a registered mental health nurse, with current Nursing and Midwifery Council registration. Having been a mental health nurse for ...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Poor mental health is a serious public health challenge. Most of all, it can be very frightening and isolating for those who experience it. The reality is t...
Foysol Choudhury (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Scotland’s mental health crisis has reached breaking point. Currently, more than 30,000 people are on a waiting list for mental health support; mental health...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I know simply from my casework about the pressure on mental health services. It is a pressure that, in my 24 years as an MSP, I have not seen before. Althoug...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
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