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Meeting of the Parliament 17 May 2023

17 May 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Bus Services

Monica Lennon mentioned that next week is #lovemybus week. I have to say that the event will seem to be rather ironic for many of my constituents, who will be feeling unrequited love after their local buses have been removed. Many of my constituents love taking the bus, but private bus companies do not appear to love them back.

Thousands of my constituents in Renfrewshire are angry, frustrated and in despair after McGill’s cut a huge 13 per cent of services at the start of this month. The company claims that the primary reason for that is the Government’s withdrawal of Covid recovery support funding. Those are the latest cuts in the bus market, which has been decimated over the past 16 years. For example, in 2007, under the then Labour Government, there were 5,400 buses in operation, but the figure had plummeted to 3,700 in 2022. As Alex Rowley rightly said, young people and older people alike are now asking what the point is of having a free bus pass if there is no bus to get on.

In Renfrewshire, we are seeing the dilution of some services and the withdrawal of other services altogether. In Kilbarchan, buses have been cut from one every 20 minutes to one an hour. In Erskine, young people are without the 22 service to get them to college in Paisley. In Gallowhill and Whitehaugh, disabled residents have lost the service from inside their scheme. In Neilston and Barrhead, cuts are affecting national health service workers who are trying to make it to shifts at the Royal Alexandra hospital. In Foxbar, a constituent of mine who is a dialysis patient is having to take a daily taxi journey because of early morning bus cuts.

Working mothers in Johnstone also face early morning bus cuts, and now find it impossible to get to work on time after dropping the kids at school. Service cuts are affecting Spateston, Linwood, Ferguslie, Hawkhead, Kirklandneuk, Bishopton and more. The list goes on and on.

Frankly, people have had enough. The bus cuts are unacceptable to them, so they should be unacceptable to the Scottish Government, too. People do not want warm words; they want action. They want us to reverse the cuts and urgently deliver a plan to improve our bus services.

Strathclyde Partnership for Transport, which has few resources, has stepped in to support some services. That is welcome, but temporary and very limited stopgap measures simply will not cut it. Therefore, it is frankly astonishing that the Scottish Government has done nothing—precisely nothing—to stop bus services in Renfrewshire being cut.

It is also extremely disappointing that the new Minister for Transport denies the problem in his amendment and has so far ignored my invitation to visit Renfrewshire to hear directly from passengers who have been affected. People in my area are rightly asking, “What is this Government here for?” For all the talk from the minister today, not a single bus service that was cut at the start of this month in Renfrewshire has been, or is set to be, reinstated.

The Scottish Government is not a bystander in this, so it should stop acting like one and govern, because the situation is not inevitable. We can and should do things differently, and there are solutions that should be implemented. First, it is long past time that instead of happily handing over to private bus companies hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money in subsidies every year, it should impose stricter conditions on support.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-08954, in the name of Alex Rowley, on access to bus services. I invite members who wish to take part to p...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
On the face of it, my motion for debate is about bus services, route cancellations, inflation-busting fare increases, a lack of investment and a failure of l...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Will Alex Rowley give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
The member is just winding up. Mr Rowley, you need to conclude at six minutes. You can take the intervention, but you will then need to conclude.
Alex Rowley Lab
I apologise to the Green member for not being able to take the intervention, but perhaps he and others can start to examine their consciences and ask themsel...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
As I am sure that members will already have gathered, there is no time in hand, so speeches will have to stick to the time limit. I invite the minister to sp...
The Minister for Transport (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I welcome the debate on the motion. Mr Rowley said that he wanted a consensual debate, but his opening remarks did not sound consensual at all. However, I a...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I will give way to Liam Kerr, because he asked first.
Liam Kerr Con
Does the minister know exactly where the concentrations of people taking up the under-22s bus scheme are located?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I will provide members with the details of where uptake has occurred. Off the top of my head, I do not have the numbers for each local authority area, but we...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
Kevin Stewart SNP
I have a lot to get through, so I will not take the intervention. Improving bus journey times and reliability will contribute to high-quality bus services a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude, minister.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer—I will. I recognise just how important a modern, affordable and accessible bus system is for the whole of Scotland. I am impres...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You do need to conclude, minister.
Kevin Stewart SNP
In which case, Presiding Officer, I move amendment S6M-08954.3, to leave out from “notes the recent” to end and insert: “supports the vision outlined in the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I ask members who intend to speak in the debate who have not already done so to press their request-to-speak button. 15:04
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the Labour Party for securing the debate. I am a fan of buses, and I have been ever since my dad worked for a bus company in the 1970s. I would be ev...
Mark Ruskell Green
Will the member give way?
Graham Simpson Con
No. Before the pandemic, 373 million journeys a year were made by bus in Scotland, which was the largest number of journeys for any form of public transport...
Kevin Stewart SNP
We are now at a stage at which 15 per cent of our bus fleet is using decarbonised buses, which is much higher than south of the border, where Mr Simpson’s pa...
Graham Simpson Con
The minister mentioned a figure of 15 per cent, yet Transform Scotland said that it was 16 per cent—that is nowhere near the target. The £500 million bus pa...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Had my amendment been chosen, it would have called on the Scottish Government to extend the under-22s free bus entitlement to ferries, which in many island c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. I remind members that we are tight for time. The words “In conclusion” should be uttered before the four-minute mark, not on the ...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in support of the Scottish Labour motion. I thank my colleague Alex Rowley for bringing his passion to the chamber today. Public trans...
Fiona Hyslop (Linlithgow) (SNP) SNP
Buses connect us to our communities and to each other, and they give us freedom and choice. A good bus network should give us an environmentally friendly, ac...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I will focus my comments on local bus services—the sort of services that act as lifelines for our communities by providing the most vulnerable people with ev...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Monica Lennon mentioned that next week is #lovemybus week. I have to say that the event will seem to be rather ironic for many of my constituents, who will b...