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Meeting of the Parliament 02 May 2023

02 May 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Highly Protected Marine Areas
Burgess, Ariane Green Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I apologise to Brian Whittle. I was being distracted by somebody else.

Presiding Officer,

“This is a crucial next step to aid marine ecosystem recovery in our waters and I’m delighted to see my recommendations become a reality today. Not only will the first of these Highly Protected Marine Areas protect important species and habitats, but they will propel the UK forward in our mission to protect at least 30% of the global ocean by 2030.”

That was said by the Minister for Biosecurity, Marine and Rural Affairs, Lord Benyon—a Tory—on the HPMAs for England. [Interruption.] I will continue, because I need to use the time.

If we do not take action, fish stocks will continue to suffer, making it harder and harder to earn a living as a fisher. In addition, losing the flood defences that are provided by healthy coastal habitats would cost billions.

Shetland’s fisheries are faring better than most, but other coastal communities are realising that the collapse of fish stocks—not an increase in protection—is what threatens coastal economies.

It is time for communities to step up and demand change. In the coming months, coastal and island communities can continue to shape the ocean recovery network of our highly protected marine areas. The cabinet secretary will hold meetings and workshops. Marine Scotland assured me that coastal communities will be central when they

“get together in a room with maps and … draw the thing out in a very collective manner”.

There will be a second public consultation on locations, and anyone will be able to submit proposals for sites.

We should go further. We need a process for communities to meaningfully input into wider spatial plans for their inshore waters, which could include HPMAs as part of a package of measures that works for each community.

It is about that whole package. Fishing is indispensable, but it makes up just 6 per cent of marine economic value and 7 per cent of marine employment. Our coastal economies are a rich tapestry. They include recreation, hospitality, tourism, shipping and the increasingly growing sector of nature restoration. Many of those will benefit from HPMAs, as in Arran, where the Lamlash bay no-take zone has increased both tourism and lobster catches near the HPMA—and where, we also hear, the general ecosystem is flourishing.

Lamlash bay is demonstrating multifaceted benefits from high protection. It should be recognised and funded as a formal pilot. However, we can also draw on ample international evidence, including benefits for fishers outside HPMAs in California, Florida, New Zealand and the Mediterranean, where the fishers asked for them to be brought in.

HPMAs have piqued public interest in marine management. We should seize the opportunity to catalyse a process of community wealth building all along our coastlines.

Through careful co-design and management with our coastal communities, we can create world-famous HPMAs, where visitors and residents alike enjoy the beautiful, nature-rich waters, from which the benefits literally spill over for local fishers and the ecosystems on which we all depend.

17:53  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-08651, in the name of Beatrice Wishart, on highly protected marine areas. The debate w...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I thank those members who signed the motion that allowed the debate to be brought to the chamber. HPMAs are “a blunt instrument”. Those are not my words but...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing this debate to the chamber today and giving us all the opportunity to speak on the issues. I represent a number of coa...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing this important debate to the chamber. Marine ecosystems worldwide store and cycle an estimated 93 per cent of the eart...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is bringing his remarks to a close.
Brian Whittle Con
Not to do so would mean that the Scottish Government was turning its back on those communities. 17:24
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
I thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing this important members’ business debate to the chamber. Over the course of the consultation period for highly protected...
Brian Whittle Con
Will the member give way?
Alasdair Allan SNP
No—I will make progress, as there is very little time. Even on recent primary school visits, HPMAs have been the first thing that many pupils have wanted to...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing the debate to the chamber. This issue has caused great consternation in fishing communities. The Scottish Governm...
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Just Transition (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I understand deeply the member’s points, but I want to question how what she is saying reconciles with the fact that she was elected on a manifesto commitmen...
Rhoda Grant Lab
That gets to the nub of the matter. This is not about protecting the marine areas—it is about how we protect them. That is done not from the top down but fro...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The member will remember that, in 2016, this Government was elected on the principle of bringing in an inshore fisheries bill, which it fundamentally failed ...
Rhoda Grant Lab
Absolutely. Managing our seas has to be devolved to local communities. They depend on the fisheries for their very survival and they need the fisheries to c...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
I warmly thank Beatrice Wishart for bringing the debate and the opportunity to speak in it to the chamber, and I congratulate her on her excellent contributi...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I join other members in thanking my colleague Beatrice Wishart not just for bringing this evening’s debate but for the tenacity that she has shown in articul...
Brian Whittle Con
Does Mr McArthur also agree that the uncertainty that the proposals are causing is impacting the ability to recruit into the sector?
Liam McArthur LD
I very much agree. I think that that was the point that Karen Adam made. Whether it is in relation to coming into the sector or people seeking to buy new ves...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank Beatrice Wishart for securing the debate. I will start by supporting some of what she has said in her motion. We all know, and we all agree, t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Due to the number of members who still wish to speak in the debate, I am minded to accept a motion without notice, under rule 8.14.3, to extend the debate by...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I thank my colleague Beatrice Wishart for securing the debate and giving us the opportunity to discuss the subject of HPMAs. Scotland is an island nation, a...
Brian Whittle Con
What species are in danger of extinction, and is that verified by neutral science, by any chance?
Edward Mountain Con
Does that include crofters?
Ariane Burgess Green
I apologise to Brian Whittle. I was being distracted by somebody else. Presiding Officer, “This is a crucial next step to aid marine ecosystem recovery in ...
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
I cannot think of a more important issue on which to give my first speech from the back benches since 2018. I am delighted to be back. However, I am not deli...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I now call on the cabinet secretary to respond to the debate. 17:58
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Just Transition (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I thank Beatrice Wishart for lodging the motion. I also thank her and other members for their contributions today, and those colleagues who joined me in the ...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Can the cabinet secretary give members a sense of how long it will take to read the responses to the consultation? How many responses did the Government rece...
Màiri McAllan SNP
In an interview that I gave earlier, I noted that we have had thousands of responses. I am still working out how many of them are duplicates and how many wer...
Liam McArthur LD
As someone who is working on a member’s bill to which there have been 14,000 responses, I feel the cabinet secretary’s pain and wish her good speed in gettin...