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Meeting of the Parliament 01 March 2023 [Draft]

01 Mar 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dementia Strategy
White, Tess Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

My wife and I were carers to two elderly parents with dementia. I have experienced the condition from both sides—as someone with caring responsibilities and as someone who saw at first hand how two wonderful people’s lives were increasingly impaired by a loss of independent function. I have also seen how social care staff in the north-east have cared gently and attentively for people who live with dementia, and I pay tribute to them today.

The Scottish Government needs to back up its rhetoric on valuing social care workers, because they are tired of hearing platitudes. There has clearly been some progress in laying the groundwork for a new dementia strategy, and that is to be welcomed. It will affect upwards of 90,000 people with dementia in Scotland, as well as their carers and, as we have heard today, their families.

Dementia symptoms can cause serious confusion and profound frustration for the people who live with them, and they can be very distressing for carers and loved ones. Their experiences need to be addressed in any framework, as we have also heard today.

This will also be the fourth such strategy since 2010. It is important to point out that the number of patients aged 65 or over has increased by 20 per cent during that period, as the Royal College of General Practitioners has emphasised to us. However, the reality is that the current systems and structures that are in place across health and social care simply do not have the capacity or the resources to rise to the monumental task ahead. We just are not equipped to deal with it.

We have an ageing population in Scotland and serious national health service workforce challenges, from a lack of general practitioners to shortages of community psychiatrist nurses and allied health professionals. We have a chronically underresourced social care system and a social care recruitment crisis contributing to delayed discharge and bed blocking in our hospitals. It is shocking that a patient in NHS Grampian in my region had their discharge delayed by 2,312 days. However, that is just the reality of the system.

The proposed national care service is deeply flawed and simply kicks the can down the road. We need immediate action. The Royal College of Physicians has also emphasised the wide variation in the number of consultant geriatricians across the country, with the north of Scotland having one geriatrician per 65,000 compared with the national average of one per 36,000. That must change.

Meanwhile, less than half of people who are newly diagnosed with dementia were offer post-diagnostic support during a vulnerable and potentially frightening time. Support should be person centred, accessible and available, but that is not the reality on the ground. We owe it to people living with dementia to get the fundamentals right to ensure that they have access to early diagnosis and post-diagnostic support, as well as appropriate palliative care as they near the end of their lives, as Marie Curie has called for. They should not have to bear the brunt of the dementia tax and the worry about how to cover the cost of their care.

We have had more than a decade of dementia strategies—it is time to start making a real difference.

16:42  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-08053, in the name of Kevin Stewart, on dementia strategy. I invite members who wish to speak in the deba...
The Minister for Mental Wellbeing and Social Care (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I am very grateful for the opportunity to lead today’s debate on the progress that we have made in developing a new dementia strategy for Scotland. That incl...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It is now almost four years exactly since my mother passed away with dementia. The minister has mentioned this point once, and perhaps he will go on to elabo...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I said at the beginning that every one of us in the chamber has probably been touched by a family member or friend who has had to live with dementia, which i...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
Dementia is the on-going decline of brain functioning, typically presenting as memory loss, the slowing of thinking speed, the loss of mental sharpness and t...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I hope that Sandesh Gulhane appreciates that all politicians in this Parliament will get real. We have just concluded a budget process in which lots of parti...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
The national care service would be a great place to start. One of the SNP’s leadership candidates is making promises about money that he is going to find fro...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am sure that most, if not all, members in the chamber have been impacted by dementia in some way. When I was a student, I worked in a care home as an activ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I recognise what Mr O’Kane said about accessing post-diagnostic support in certain places. The Government has put in an extra £3.5 million per annum to ensur...
Paul O’Kane Lab
I recognise what the minister said about that investment, but I think that it is fair to say that that money was the restoration of previous cuts. Also, we h...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this important debate. As we have heard, dementia is a devastating and often tragic condition that exacts ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does Alex Cole-Hamilton agree that there must also be respite for families, as it allows those suffering dementia to stay in the home but is also important i...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Absolutely. Martin Whitfield is right to bring the attention of the chamber to the fact that much of the unpaid care force in this country is exploited by th...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am afraid that Mr Cole-Hamilton is in the closing part of his speech.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
The Government’s motion correctly highlights the vital importance of care in our communities. One may wonder, then, why it is intent on disempowering the pro...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Cole-Hamilton, could you please conclude?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I will end here, Presiding Officer. Although the Government still has a lot to do, we will support the efforts that it is making.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before we move to the open debate, I note that some members who, I believe, wish to speak have not yet pressed their request-to-speak buttons. I invite them ...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I take this opportunity to highlight the growing need to improve support for those with dementia. Alzheimer Scotland advises that, worldwide, the number of a...
Kevin Stewart SNP
The way that we talk about dementia is extremely important, and one of the things that has come out loud and clear from the panel is the use of language. Alr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, we are really tight for time. Ms McNair, I can give you the time back.
Marie McNair SNP
The issues to be addressed by the strategy also include the gaps between policy and practice, the postcode lottery impact on the provision of support—which h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is no time in hand, so any interventions will have to be incorporated into your allocated time, which will also need to be adhere...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
My wife and I were carers to two elderly parents with dementia. I have experienced the condition from both sides—as someone with caring responsibilities and ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome a debate on preparing a new dementia strategy, because it is a miserable, cruel disease that impacts on so many people, and it is increas...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Our population is, on average, becoming older with each passing year. We must come to terms with the increased prevalence of dementia and related illnesses. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Carol Mochan Lab
We are not asking for much. We are just asking for the Government to live up to its own commitments. 16:50
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate and, indeed, the Scottish Government’s upcoming dementia strategy. My first job after I left school was in a care home, and my first pl...