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Meeting of the Parliament 01 March 2023 [Draft]

01 Mar 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dementia Strategy

I am sure that most, if not all, members in the chamber have been impacted by dementia in some way. When I was a student, I worked in a care home as an activities organiser. I know that colleagues will struggle to see me as the home’s redcoat, but in many ways that allowed me to get a better understanding of people living with dementia, and to build relationships with their families and understand something of the illness and the support that is required to ensure that we work hand-in-hand with families to deliver the care and support that is needed.

It is estimated that 90,000 people in Scotland live with dementia. As we heard, new research from Marie Curie estimates that the number of people dying with dementia as the primary underlying cause of death will rise by almost 200 per cent by 2040.

I begin with the areas of consensus that exist in the debate. Our public health approach to dementia must recognise and respond to the increasing prevalence of dementia across society. That is why that we, in the Labour Party, believe that it is imperative that we have a person-centred approach to dementia that focuses our energies on empowering people with dementia to continue to live fulfilling lives with access to additional care and support when they need it.

Any strategy for dementia must, first and foremost, recognise that people who live with dementia are human beings just like you and me. They have social needs and are supported by their loved ones, who, as we have heard from members, are often struggling in their own ways to cope and find the space to deal with the illness. We must explore how we make our communities more dementia inclusive and dementia friendly, so that people with dementia can live at home for as long as they are able to do so. We support the work of the dementia-friendly communities network, which brings together hundreds of dementia-friendly communities that have made meaningful changes to local villages and towns across Scotland to create inclusive spaces for people with dementia.

When the Government launched its national conversation on a new dementia strategy for Scotland, last autumn, we welcomed that development, and we take seriously the responses of people with lived experience, clinicians, third sector organisations and the family carers whom I have spoken about.

What is clear from the conversation is that people who live with dementia and their families need to see action. They need to see tangible signs of progress from the Government, because national conversations become devalued unless they result in substantially improved outcomes for patients. We have had a national conversation, but have we really been listening to what has been said? Despite encouraging rhetoric, the Government’s delivery record has been less than impressive.

The SNP has been in power for 15 years and the first dementia strategy was published 13 years ago, yet people with dementia and their families still face a postcode lottery for diagnosis and post-diagnostic support. The most recent statistics, which are from 2019-20, show that only 42 per cent of people who are newly diagnosed with dementia are referred for post-diagnostic support. Indeed, during the pandemic, people with dementia and their families were at the centre of that maelstrom and they did not receive support in their lives often enough. In some ways, that reflects the Government’s failure to learn lessons since the implementation of the first national dementia strategy, in 2010.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-08053, in the name of Kevin Stewart, on dementia strategy. I invite members who wish to speak in the deba...
The Minister for Mental Wellbeing and Social Care (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I am very grateful for the opportunity to lead today’s debate on the progress that we have made in developing a new dementia strategy for Scotland. That incl...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It is now almost four years exactly since my mother passed away with dementia. The minister has mentioned this point once, and perhaps he will go on to elabo...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I said at the beginning that every one of us in the chamber has probably been touched by a family member or friend who has had to live with dementia, which i...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
Dementia is the on-going decline of brain functioning, typically presenting as memory loss, the slowing of thinking speed, the loss of mental sharpness and t...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I hope that Sandesh Gulhane appreciates that all politicians in this Parliament will get real. We have just concluded a budget process in which lots of parti...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
The national care service would be a great place to start. One of the SNP’s leadership candidates is making promises about money that he is going to find fro...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am sure that most, if not all, members in the chamber have been impacted by dementia in some way. When I was a student, I worked in a care home as an activ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I recognise what Mr O’Kane said about accessing post-diagnostic support in certain places. The Government has put in an extra £3.5 million per annum to ensur...
Paul O’Kane Lab
I recognise what the minister said about that investment, but I think that it is fair to say that that money was the restoration of previous cuts. Also, we h...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this important debate. As we have heard, dementia is a devastating and often tragic condition that exacts ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does Alex Cole-Hamilton agree that there must also be respite for families, as it allows those suffering dementia to stay in the home but is also important i...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Absolutely. Martin Whitfield is right to bring the attention of the chamber to the fact that much of the unpaid care force in this country is exploited by th...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am afraid that Mr Cole-Hamilton is in the closing part of his speech.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
The Government’s motion correctly highlights the vital importance of care in our communities. One may wonder, then, why it is intent on disempowering the pro...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Cole-Hamilton, could you please conclude?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I will end here, Presiding Officer. Although the Government still has a lot to do, we will support the efforts that it is making.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before we move to the open debate, I note that some members who, I believe, wish to speak have not yet pressed their request-to-speak buttons. I invite them ...
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I take this opportunity to highlight the growing need to improve support for those with dementia. Alzheimer Scotland advises that, worldwide, the number of a...
Kevin Stewart SNP
The way that we talk about dementia is extremely important, and one of the things that has come out loud and clear from the panel is the use of language. Alr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, we are really tight for time. Ms McNair, I can give you the time back.
Marie McNair SNP
The issues to be addressed by the strategy also include the gaps between policy and practice, the postcode lottery impact on the provision of support—which h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is no time in hand, so any interventions will have to be incorporated into your allocated time, which will also need to be adhere...
Tess White (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
My wife and I were carers to two elderly parents with dementia. I have experienced the condition from both sides—as someone with caring responsibilities and ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome a debate on preparing a new dementia strategy, because it is a miserable, cruel disease that impacts on so many people, and it is increas...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Our population is, on average, becoming older with each passing year. We must come to terms with the increased prevalence of dementia and related illnesses. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to conclude.
Carol Mochan Lab
We are not asking for much. We are just asking for the Government to live up to its own commitments. 16:50
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate and, indeed, the Scottish Government’s upcoming dementia strategy. My first job after I left school was in a care home, and my first pl...