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Meeting of the Parliament 23 February 2023

23 Feb 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

I sincerely thank everybody who took part in this short debate. I will briefly feed back on those contributions.

Clare Adamson, the convener of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, highlighted the overwhelming strength of evidence to the committee about how damaging the bill is.

Donald Cameron, from the Conservative front bench, suggested that it was premature to decline legislative consent. I have to say to him, however, that, given everything that we know about the bill so far, and the evidence that has been presented to the committee, I do not agree with him that the Parliament should give the UK Government a blank cheque to continue.

He called on the UK and Scottish Governments to work together, ignoring the fact that the UK Government has ignored all amendments that were supported by the Scottish and Welsh Governments. Again, that is a reason why, even at this late stage, the Conservatives should reconsider their opposition to granting legislative consent.

Sarah Boyack began by pointing out, in an eminently sensible way, how an alternative course of action could have been proceeded with, were there pieces of retained EU law on the statute book that needed to be sunsetted in any way. That was perfectly possible; however, the UK Government has turned the whole process on its head, forcing every piece of European legislation—devolved, reserved and in between—to face sunsetting. I very much welcome the Labour Party’s opposition to the giving of legislative consent.

To Willie Rennie and the Liberal Democrats—a party that now accepts and is prepared to live with Brexit—I say, as I have said to him before when he has appealed for the Scottish Government to work with the UK Government, that I have done so. I have written repeatedly to the UK Government on this issue. We have published amendments that were supported by colleagues in the Welsh Government, but none of those has been accepted. I reject his suggestion that there is an issue of equidistance in critique. Notwithstanding that, I welcome the support of the Scottish Liberal Democrats for the withholding of legislative consent.

In the short time that I have left, I will draw attention to a number of things. One question that has been raised is whether, given that the Scottish ministers will get powers to preserve and amend retained EU law, the concern about UK ministers acting in devolved areas without consent is overstated. No—it is not overstated. The bill gives devolved ministers powers to preserve, revoke and amend REUL, but UK ministers are able to revoke REUL in devolved areas at any time, prior to and after the 2023 sunset, with no requirement for consent. How can we possibly grant a blank cheque to the UK Government in those circumstances? Moreover, only UK ministers have powers to extend the sunset date to 2026. The balance of power is unequal.

All that could have been solved in the House of Commons or the House of Lords, where the bill is at present, if the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party was prepared to make the case to the UK Government. Who knows? Perhaps it would be listened to. However, we have heard none of that from the Conservative members today.

Sarah Boyack has repeatedly raised the issue of timescale and decision making, and she is absolutely right on that. No preservation or other instruments can be made under the bill unless and until it has received royal assent and is in force, which is expected to be around May 2023. Once that has happened, the Scottish Government would intend to lay secondary legislation to seek to ensure that laws are not lost at the end of 2023. I would be content to come back, in a further and extended debate, to talk through how that may work and, I hope, to provide the assurances that Sarah Boyack requires.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07997, in the name of Angus Robertson, on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill, which is a pi...
The Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, External Affairs and Culture (Angus Robertson) SNP
Today’s debate is timely, because today is also the day on which the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill begins its committee stage in the House of ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Clare Adamson to speak on behalf of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. 14:37
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I thank members of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, the committee clerks and all those who submitted evidence and attended m...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I refer to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am a member of the Faculty of Advocates. This is, of course, the second time that I have risen ...
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Donald Cameron Con
Very briefly.
Jenni Minto SNP
I am interested in the definition of “EU law”, because all these laws were looked at by the Parliaments of the United Kingdom during the time of our membersh...
Donald Cameron Con
I am not sure that they were all on the statute book. That is a question of legal interpretation. I certainly acknowledge that a lot of EU law was either dir...
Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Donald Cameron Con
I will not. I have very little time. Otherwise, there will be two separate statute books, with completely different interpretive principles and case law. I...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour has been clear that we do not support the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill. I start by thanking all those who gave evidence to th...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
In many ways, this day was inevitable. As soon as the Brexit referendum was lost and the Conservative Government sought a hard Brexit that cut almost all for...
Alasdair Allan SNP
For the record, my understanding is that no one in the independence movement would suggest that all laws since 1707 be unpicked or repealed on independence d...
Willie Rennie LD
To be honest, I think that both movements are as bad as each other on this. They both promised far too harsh a transition far too early—the nationalists prom...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call the cabinet secretary, Angus Robertson, to wind up on behalf of the Scottish Government. 14:56
Angus Robertson SNP
I sincerely thank everybody who took part in this short debate. I will briefly feed back on those contributions. Clare Adamson, the convener of the Constitu...
Sarah Boyack Lab
It is important that we can get that as soon as possible. If the cabinet secretary could refer to the references in the Constitution, Europe, External Affair...
Angus Robertson SNP
Absolutely—I am happy to—but I am sure that Sarah Boyack understands that we are still in the middle of a process of trying to understand the course of actio...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That concludes the debate on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill.