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Meeting of the Parliament 08 February 2023

08 Feb 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Care

Hello again. I am pleased to rise once again to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this afternoon’s debate and to move the motion in my name.

Social care staff care for the most vulnerable people in our society; they look after our nearest and dearest, and even us when we are not able to; and they are there when no one else is. However, every day, Scotland’s hard-working social care staff are being let down. More than 200,000 people work in social care in Scotland. They do so under immense strain, and they have been underpaid and undervalued for years.

I might note the cognitive dissonance of ministers, who sought to delete the word “crisis” from our motion on dentistry, now attempting to delete the line in our motion on social care that relates to how our social care staff have been neglected. That is shameful, because they have been neglected. Twenty per cent of them are not on permanent contracts, and many of them are on zero-hours contracts. Poor terms and conditions contribute to rising absence due to sickness and burnout.

Social care staff deserve better pay and working conditions, and they need those now, but instead of being rewarded for the vital work that they do, their efforts are being sacrificed on the altar of a £1 billion ministerial takeover of social care. It is therefore no wonder that there is currently a vacancy rate of 47 per cent across the social care workforce. There are of course many reasons for that, and I will pre-empt the minister by saying that of course the impact of Brexit is one of those reasons, as is the trauma that care staff faced during the pandemic. However, it is clear that the sector needs the Government’s support. Why, then, is the Government content to wait for the introduction of its so-called national care service to improve pay and develop collective bargaining, when those things could happen right now?

The Government often speaks about the financial constraints under which it is forced to work. However, it is utterly baffling and indefensible that it continues to press ahead with its plans for the ministerial takeover of social care, which will create a vast and unnecessary bureaucracy that will rip away control from local authorities and will have a huge and hefty price tag attached. Estimates from the Scottish Parliament information centre are that it could cost as much as £1.3 billion over the next five years.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07813, in the name of Alex Cole-Hamilton, on investing in the future of social care. I advise members tha...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Hello again. I am pleased to rise once again to speak for the Liberal Democrats in this afternoon’s debate and to move the motion in my name. Social care st...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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The Minister for Mental Wellbeing and Social Care (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to, once again, set out to the chamber the principles of and ambitions for the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. We have hear...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Has the Government decided whether children’s services will be included yet?
Kevin Stewart SNP
Mr Rennie knows the answer to that. We said that we would carry out more analysis of children’s services, which we are doing. Our aim is to establish a soci...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Kevin Stewart SNP
Very briefly.
Jackie Baillie Lab
Will the minister advise on the number of social care vacancies and whether that figure is rising or falling?
Kevin Stewart SNP
We keep a close eye on social care vacancies. There are vacancies around the country. That is why a recruitment process is going on at this moment, backed by...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The minister must conclude at this very second. Thank you.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Those boards will be accountable not only to ministers—
The Presiding Officer NPA
At that very second, minister.
Kevin Stewart SNP
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The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Craig Hoy to speak to and move amendment S6M-07813.2. 16:49
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Craig Hoy Con
No, I will not. If that is the case, the definition of ministerial arrogance is asking well-qualified professionals for their views over and over and ignori...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Craig Hoy Con
Yes. Mr Stewart could perhaps tell us whether there is one third sector organisation that agrees with his plans.
Kevin Stewart SNP
Many third sector organisations agree with our plans, and some third sector organisations think that other parts should be added to the national care service...
Craig Hoy Con
Given that the committees of the Parliament, including the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, do not know what the bill means, how can people in the ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Craig Hoy Con
No, I will not. However, the criticism goes way beyond Parliament. Johanna Baxter, who is the regional organiser and head of local government for Unison Sco...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Mr Hoy, I have to ask you to conclude and to move the amendment in your name.
Craig Hoy Con
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The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Hoy. You are out of time.
Craig Hoy Con
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The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Paul O’Kane to speak to and move amendment S6M-07813.1. 16:55