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Meeting of the Parliament 25 January 2023

25 Jan 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Housing
Griffin, Mark Lab Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

As I stated earlier, the causes of the lack of housing and homelessness crises have to be borne by both Governments. The disastrous mini-budget will have long-lasting effects on Scotland’s housing market in the social and private sectors and beyond, which is unforgivable. That failed economic experiment will be made worse by continued Government inaction here.

A couple of weeks ago in the debate on NPF4, the Scottish Government again dismissed concerns that tens of thousands of households are actively excluded from the all-tenure housing land calculations on the number of houses that need to be built, and in the autumn, it voted down Labour proposals to help those struggling with mortgages with a revamped scheme with lower equity requirements and an increased threshold that reflects current prices.

I am frustrated that neither the Conservative motion nor the Government amendment offers a direction of travel. They offer no policy proposals that could be implemented and would support change.

We have had contributions from back-bench members. My regional colleague Graham Simpson highlighted compulsory sales orders and my Labour colleague Foysol Choudhury suggested a course of action on dampness. Christine Grahame and Ariane Burgess talked about the reform to VAT that should be introduced by the UK Government. Paul McLennan talked about changes that the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, of which we are both members, seeks on NPF4. However, there does not seem to be a direction of travel from the Conservatives or the Government to drive forward policy change.

That is why we see a clear and urgent need for a dedicated housing minister. This is nowhere near a criticism or a motion of no confidence, but the minister has parliamentary responsibilities, in the words of Robert Burns, “As lang’s my arm”. The cabinet secretary has an in-tray that includes local government and the devolution of a range of social security powers, and has no doubt had her time taken up by the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill. It is clear that there is a desire in the housing sector, among builders and the third sector, for a more focused Government housing policy, and they would like a dedicated housing minister to lead that.

I spoke in the previous debate about how grant guidance and rules require open-market acquisitions and therefore vacant possessions, which means that sellers are required to make tenants homeless. In the context of the debate, that also means that purchases with a tenant in situ are all but ruled out by the supply programme. Councils and registered social landlords are limited to properties where a tenant may have been made homeless or threatened with homelessness. I would like the Government to urgently consider that area to see whether changes could be made to protect tenants from homelessness while allowing social sector acquisitions. The cabinet secretary made an attempt to intervene on me during a previous debate on that. I am happy to take an intervention on social sector acquisitions from the private sector with a tenant in situ, if the Government wants to make any announcements.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07614, in the name of Miles Briggs, on delivering the homes that Scotland needs. I ask those members who ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Scotland has a critical shortage of housing, as I think the previous debate clearly outlined. Given the amendments to my motion, I do not think that any part...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
If Miles Briggs has been meeting with the sector, he will have heard what I have heard, which is that the key issue that it faces is the rate of inflation—in...
Miles Briggs Con
I think that is where the global commodity prices have been impacting. Coming out of the pandemic, issues around steel and concrete have had a huge impact gl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the cabinet secretary, I remind members to exercise a bit of caution in any references—direct or indirect—to the Cost of Living (Tenant Protect...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
I will start by saying how refreshing it was to hear the tone of Jamie Greene’s closing speech in the previous debate. Would it not be so much more productiv...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome measures to modernise the compulsory purchase process. With an awareness that councils do not have a lot of money to complete that process, will th...
Shona Robison SNP
Mark Griffin will be aware that we are considering the matter of compulsory sale orders as part of the review, but any new powers will have to be compliant w...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
We welcome this afternoon’s second debate. Although there is much crossover with the previous debate, we are absolutely clear that the faltering housing mark...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Griffin, you need to bring your remarks to a close.
Mark Griffin Lab
That was clearly caused by the Conservatives’ disastrous mini-budget, which wiped billions of pounds off the value of the economy. We must bear that in mind....
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I apologise for not being in the chamber for the conclusion of the previous debate. I got stuck in a very detailed discussion with Murdo Fraser about whisky ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not think that we need any more details, Mr Rennie.
Willie Rennie LD
I apologise for that. I will start off where Mark Griffin finished. I agree with much of what Miles Briggs said in his opening speech, but he cannot ignore ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 16:37
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
We do not debate housing often enough in this place—I do not know why; it is perhaps not seen as exciting enough—so to get two debates in one day is really g...
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
I was surprised to see the Conservatives lodging the motion for this debate when it is their Government in Westminster that is directly impacting the Scottis...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is in her last 30 seconds.
Jackie Dunbar SNP
In relation to the new target of 110,000, 4,927 affordable homes have been delivered. Indeed, this SNP Scottish Government has a track record to be proud of....
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms Dunbar, you will need to close.
Jackie Dunbar SNP
—the SNP Scottish Government is acting to build homes, tackle inequality and better the lives of the people of Scotland.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We have no time in hand. 16:45
Foysol Choudhury (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer, for the opportunity to speak on this important issue. My casework is inundated with constituents experiencing housing issues, w...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
My colleague Graham Simpson rightly said that housing policy is extremely important—it certainly is. I will concentrate on the economic and geographical mobi...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
It is a basic human right to have a place to call home. It provides shelter, comfort, a sanctuary and identity. You have your own address: “This is where I l...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The need for affordable energy-efficient homes continues to be a central topic in the Highlands and Islands, so I welcome this opportunity to highlight the p...
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
It is a pleasure to speak in this afternoon’s debate. Four minutes is a short time in which to speak about an incredibly important subject. I was a councillo...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the winding-up speeches. 17:06
Mark Griffin Lab
As I stated earlier, the causes of the lack of housing and homelessness crises have to be borne by both Governments. The disastrous mini-budget will have lon...