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Meeting of the Parliament 11 January 2023

11 Jan 2023 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Parliamentary Bureau Motions

I agree with what the member has said. The irony is that, as the committee was taking evidence regarding the regulations, the snow was falling outside and the temperature had plummeted. People in England and Wales were getting money in their pockets, yet, four days later, people in Scotland had received zero.

This benefit will particularly affect people with disability, as not all disabled people will get it. People who need the money because they stay in their houses longer than other people and therefore need to heat them for longer will miss out. We are calling on the Scottish Government to come up with a new scheme for next year that is designed to help vulnerable people in Scotland.

We heard evidence from Social Security Scotland and the minister about the lack of ministerial involvement in the design of the scheme. They seem to have been quite happy to leave it to their officials to do all the work and to simply not engage with the difficult issues. Perhaps most damning is the fact that, when giving evidence, neither the minister nor Social Security Scotland could guarantee that people would get their money in February—and why is that?

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is consideration of Parliamentary Bureau motion S6M-07459, in the name of George Adam, on approval of a Scottish statutory instrume...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I rise to speak about winter heating assistance, which is a new benefit that the Scottish Government is bringing in to replace a previous one. We have been w...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
For many of the reasons that the member has stated, Scottish Labour abstained on the regulations in committee. Voting against them would have meant that peop...
Jeremy Balfour Con
I agree with what the member has said. The irony is that, as the committee was taking evidence regarding the regulations, the snow was falling outside and th...
Emma Roddick (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Mr Balfour says that we cannot guarantee that there will be a payment in February. Does he recognise that there is no guarantee that people anywhere will get...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Wind up, please, Mr Balfour.
Jeremy Balfour Con
If the member looks, she will see that everyone got money in December after that four-day period, but there is no guarantee from the Scottish Government. Tha...
The Minister for Social Security and Local Government (Ben Macpherson) SNP
If Parliament passes the regulations today, around 415,000 people will be paid an annual and reliable benefit to support them with their winter energy bills ...
Pam Duncan-Glancy Lab
The minister has highlighted some concerns around the weather stations and the cold weather payments. Did he have any conversations with the Met Office when ...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I refer the member to my evidence to the Social Justice and Social Security Committee on that issue and to the point that I have emphasised about the fact th...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The minister must wind up.
Ben Macpherson SNP
By comparison, our new, stable benefit will be an investment of more than £20 million next year for all those who are eligible, and we will uprate it in the ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question on the motion will be put at decision time. The next item of business is consideration of a Parliamentary Bureau motion. I ask George Adam, on ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question on the motion will be put at decision time.