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Meeting of the Parliament 22 December 2022

22 Dec 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Maternity Services in Moray
Carson, Finlay Con Galloway and West Dumfries Watch on SPTV

I pass on my good wishes for the festive season, and I recognise the Presiding Officer’s generosity at this festive time in regard to my contribution.

I whole-heartedly sympathise with my colleague Douglas Ross when it comes to the problems that he faces around the serious lack of maternity services at Dr Gray’s hospital in Elgin. Although my speech is not specifically about Dr Gray’s, I believe that—with your indulgence, Presiding Officer—it will highlight that that is the case not just in Moray but in other rural areas where trust in health boards is at rock bottom.

I am sure that it will be of little comfort to Douglas Ross to know that he is not alone in witnessing a serious erosion of health services. In Galloway and West Dumfries, we are experiencing a similar crisis that needs to be rectified as a matter of urgency. There has been much talk in the debate about option 4 and option 6 but, in Galloway, we have no option. Mothers-to-be in Wigtownshire are facing the daunting prospect of a 70-mile trip to Dumfries and Galloway royal infirmary—a journey that can often take two hours—in order to give birth. I speak from experience. My wife had to stay in DGRI for a period prior to giving birth because a condition that she had meant that there was too much risk in her possibly taking an hour or more to get to hospital when labour started.

There is a midwife-led community maternity unit in Stranraer that, incredibly, was once the eighth busiest in Scotland but, bizarrely, it is currently closed. What makes the situation all the more galling is the fact that there are four midwives who live in the immediate area but who have to travel to Dumfries instead of being employed locally in the unit.

An independently reviewed formula is used to identify funding for health boards, but we have to ask whether it is fit for purpose when it comes to areas such as Moray and Galloway. It is clearly unacceptable that there are glaring health inequalities, with pregnant women in my constituency having to make that two-hour journey by car or ambulance. There have been numerous instances of women giving birth in lay-bys along the A75, including as recently as last month.

In November, the Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport, Maree Todd, visited the unit in Stranraer to see for herself the facilities that were on offer but, sadly, the unit remains closed. The minister was involved in discussions about a woman who had tragically suffered a miscarriage but still had to make the long journey from Stranraer to Dumfries. That lady bravely told of her heart-rending experience, which was exacerbated by the fact that she could not go to her local maternity unit in Stranraer. In this day and age, it should not be allowed that women have to face such untold stress and anxiety while about to give birth. Giving birth should be a joyful and memorable experience, but that has been denied to so many women in Wigtownshire.

It is positive that the cabinet secretary has reiterated that not just maternity services but all health services should be provided as close to home as possible, but I sincerely hope that the Government sticks to that commitment and puts sufficient pressure on NHS Dumfries and Galloway to deliver on the provision of maternity services in Stranraer.

Of course, it is not just maternity services that have been affected. Other health services that were previously delivered in the likes of our cottage hospitals have been largely paused since the outbreak of the pandemic. NHS Dumfries and Galloway has refused to instigate a full return of the health services that were previously provided in Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright, Newton Stewart and Moffat, which is not in my constituency. The strength of local feeling on the importance of delivering a range of health services, such as palliative care and step-down care, in our cottage hospitals has been enormous, so it is abundantly clear that people need to be cared for as close to home as possible, rather than having to undertake unreasonably long journeys.

It is important that the Scottish Government and health boards listen to the people who matter—the public—everywhere, in rural and urban areas. They deserve to have, and demand, maternity and other health services on their doorstep, where they live.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The final item of business today is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-07192, in the name of Douglas Ross, on maternity services at Dr Gray’s hospital....
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Best wishes for the festive period to you and all the staff of the Parliament. I will give a brief bit of background to the si...
Richard Lochhead (Moray) (SNP) SNP
I agree with Douglas Ross that the cross-party spirit around this issue is important. I share his concern that it has taken far too long to get to where we a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Douglas Ross, I can give you that time back.
Douglas Ross Con
I am grateful, Deputy Presiding Officer. I agree wholeheartedly with what Richard Lochhead said. That laser focus must come from the health board, it must c...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Humza Yousaf) SNP
I will come to the issue of model 4 and model 6 in my contribution, but does the member agree that, even if there was no model 4, for the sustainability of s...
Douglas Ross Con
Of course I agree with that. My constituents who live in Brodie are far closer to Raigmore hospital than my constituents who live in Cullen, who are closer t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Ross. In the spirit of the week and the season, I am happy to gift a little extra time. 17:26
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
When Douglas Ross said that he was hoping to see “more and more”, I thought that he was going to say more of his children born there, which would have been a...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I say at the outset that Douglas Ross’s words are wise words that come from the heart, not only that of his constituents but his own, because he has been thr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Through the chair, please, Mr Mountain.
Edward Mountain Con
I am just finishing up, Presiding Officer. If you push on with model 4, mums who are coming down from Caithness will not be able to get in, because the beds...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Douglas Ross on securing the debate, and I congratulate Keep MUM and the other campaigners who ensure that the issue is not forgotten. Like Ed...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I pass on my good wishes for the festive season, and I recognise the Presiding Officer’s generosity at this festive time in regard to my contribution. I who...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Mr Carson. You might have tested to destruction the definition of relevance, but at least you did not dress it up as a point of order. Thank goodn...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Members will be pleased that some of the points that I had intended to make have already been made, so I will be quite brief. I thank Douglas Ross for bringi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I invite Humza Yousaf to respond to the debate. 17:49
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Humza Yousaf) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I begin, as you and many others have done, by wishing everybody all the very best for the festive season—a very merry Christmas...
Douglas Ross Con
That is a very welcome announcement, which I asked for in the motion and campaigners have been asking for. The cabinet secretary has said that he will not c...
Humza Yousaf SNP
I suspect that I will not be able to do the matter the justice that it deserves in the time that we have. I am happy, as always, to pick it up with Douglas R...
The Minister for Just Transition, Employment and Fair Work (Richard Lochhead) SNP
I welcome the cabinet secretary’s announcement, which is something that I called for when I conveyed the views of keep MUM at a meeting a few weeks ago. Wit...
Humza Yousaf SNP
I can give assurances about that. Before I do so, I say that Richard Lochhead has perfectly articulated the integrated model that we are talking about. Let ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I am being generous, cabinet secretary.
Humza Yousaf SNP
Good. I will try not to keep people back.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You may continue for the time being.
Humza Yousaf SNP
How much time do I have?
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can give you another couple of minutes.
Humza Yousaf SNP
That would be great, Presiding Officer. It is much appreciated. I want to touch on a number of issues that have been raised directly with me. It may be bett...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I congratulate everybody on persevering and making it through to the end of what has been a long week and a busy term. I add my...