Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 21 December 2022
21 Dec 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the cabinet secretary for the information that she has shared so far. Tentatively, I want to support her amendment 55, as I note that the provision is in the Gender Recognition Act 2004. I presume that it is not necessary to replicate the provision in the bill. However, I would like clarity on whether that is the reason for removal of the provision. I would be grateful if the cabinet secretary could confirm whether that is the reason, or whether there is another one. For example, is the provision to send copies of gender recognition certificates deemed to be no longer necessary as a result of technology? If that is the case, could the cabinet secretary confirm that she has spoken to all registrars general in the United Kingdom to confirm that? I hope that the cabinet secretary can provide clarity to the public and me in her answer, before we vote on the amendment.
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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone)
NPA
Section 12—Copies of certificates to be given to other Registrars General 19:53 We now move to group 14, on the copying of certificates to other regis...
Shona Robison
SNP
Amendment 55, in my name, will remove section 12, which would require that copies of gender recognition certificates be given to other registrars general in ...
Michael Marra
Lab
I will take the opportunity to clarify a point that was raised in a briefing from MurrayBlackburnMackenzie that has been received by MSPs, which says that it...
Shona Robison
SNP
People who are living in Scotland will be able to do that until the bill is enacted. Obviously, there will be delay before the bill’s commencement, once it h...
Jeremy Balfour
Con
I thank the cabinet secretary for the information that she has shared so far. Tentatively, I want to support her amendment 55, as I note that the provision i...
Shona Robison
SNP
As I have said, amendment 55 seeks to future proof the bill against the possibility that the UK Government decides not to recognise a Scottish GRC. The amend...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 55 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 119, Against 3, Abstentions 4. Amendment 55 agreed to. 20:00 After section 13 Amendment 112 not moved. Amendment 11...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 113 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Bibby, Neil ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 60, Against 66, Abstentions 0. Amendment 113 disagreed to. Section 14—Offences Amendment 114 moved—Jamie Greene.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 114 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 98, Against 14, Abstentions 14. Amendment 114 agreed to. Amendment 115 moved—Jamie Greene.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 115 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 100, Against 10, Abstentions 17. Amendment 115 agreed to. Amendment 116 moved—Oliver Mundell.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 116 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sa...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 37, Against 76, Abstentions 12. Amendment 116 disagreed to. After section 14 Amendment 117 moved—Pauline McNeill.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 117 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife)...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 59, Against 67, Abstentions 1. Amendment 117 disagreed to. Amendment 118 moved—Claire Baker.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 118 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Bibby, Neil ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The result of the division is: For 57, Against 70, Abstentions 0. Amendment 118 disagreed to. Amendment 119 moved—Claire Baker.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
The question is, that amendment 119 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
There will be a division. The vote is closed.
Jamie Halcro Johnston
Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not refresh. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Thank you. We will ensure that that is recorded. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothi...