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Meeting of the Parliament 07 December 2022

07 Dec 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Education System

It is hardly a soundbite to set out the atrocious record of the member’s Government. He should be ashamed that he supports the Government day in, day out. I want to take part in the debate and I am listening very carefully to the approach that is being taken. There are innovative ways through which we can change how we do exams and qualifications and the years at which they take place. That requires decent consideration, but that is not a replacement for a proper strategy on the Government’s wider responsibilities on education. We need to make the curriculum work with specialist advice and support for classroom teachers, which has been absent for years, since curriculum for excellence was established.

We must abolish national testing and reform exams and qualifications so that they match the curriculum. We must elevate the prestige of vocational qualifications, which we have tried to do for decades. We need to learn the lessons of Germany on those reforms.

We need to reform the age at which children begin formal education at school, in line with SNP policy—I seem to support SNP policy on that more than the SNP Government does.

We must create new national, independent education bodies, which have the trust of teachers because they are led by teachers, following the recommendations of the Muir review.

My colleague Beatrice Wishart would like the Government to explore making swimming a key part of the curriculum, just as has happened in England. That is incredibly important for our young people.

We must provide clarity for our colleges, with an urgent statement of intent that includes comment on their central role in training and retraining for the new, sustainable economy.

We must hold a national review of our universities and set a long-term, sustainable approach. We must create the new Scottish Erasmus without further delay, following the Welsh model—Taith—which is up and running and offering opportunities for young people.

We must reform the funding for early years, to ensure that all staff are paid fair and equal wages, no matter who their employer is.

Those are all positive proposals for our future. Liberal Democrats believe that education is the great leveller, the opportunity provider, the economic driver and the society maker. That is why we need a Government that prioritises education—rather than the miserable record of the past 15 years. Let us have a change, with a new vision and new leadership.

I move amendment S6M-07111.2, to insert at end:

“; acknowledges the hard work done by teachers, support staff and all those working in Scottish education; affirms that this work must be properly valued, with teachers given fair pay and provided with better working conditions; believes that national testing for primary one pupils must be scrapped; further believes that pupil equity funding must be used to close the poverty-related attainment gap, not fund the police; considers that colleges urgently need strategic direction from the Scottish Government; further considers that universities need a national discussion to address current threats; takes the view that staff in private and voluntary nurseries deserve fair pay, and believes that Scottish education must be a new national priority to make it the best again.”

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07111, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on the state of the Scottish education system. I invite members who w...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It is my privilege to move the motion in my name, which speaks to what I believe is the most important thing over which we have power in this Parliament—Scot...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Stephen Kerr has not yet said whether a better pay increase should be offered, although that is what he is implying. I understand that teachers have been off...
Stephen Kerr Con
If I was at the negotiating table, the dispute would have been resolved months ago—Interruption.—but the cabinet secretary with responsibility to be at the n...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
Stephen Kerr did not answer the question. If he was at the negotiating table, what would he offer, and where would he take the money from in the education bu...
Stephen Kerr Con
I think that the cabinet secretary might have got things the wrong way round. She comes to Parliament to be held to account by the members of this Parliament...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
In February, I raised in the chamber a survey that said that nearly half of our dedicated hard-working teachers in Aberdeen were considering quitting due to ...
Stephen Kerr Con
I think that my friend already knows the answer to that: there is no evidence of anything happening. I will tell members what the current level of reported ...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Will the member give way?
Stephen Kerr Con
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Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does Stephen Kerr agree that it was disappointing to see in the Scottish Government’s announcement last week that the new body will retain awarding and regul...
Stephen Kerr Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Shirley-Anne Somerville to speak to and move amendment S6M-07111.3, for around nine minutes. 15:16
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
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Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On the PISA figures, does the cabinet secretary not recognise that there is a long-term trend of decline in literacy and numeracy in our schools?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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Stephen Kerr Con
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Michael Marra to speak to and move amendment S6M-07111.1. 15:26
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Does Michael Marra agree that the achievement of curriculum for excellence level statistics that will be published next week, and the work around the health ...
Michael Marra Lab
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I could not. They are not published yet.
Michael Marra Lab
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Stephen Kerr Con
Hear, hear!
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
It is with the business bureau.