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Meeting of the Parliament 07 December 2022

07 Dec 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Education System
Kerr, Stephen Con Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

That is further evidence that the Government and the cabinet secretary do not listen. All the advice is to the contrary of what the Government announced last week.

What the cabinet secretary needs to understand is that being seen to do something is just not the same as doing it. I ask again: why are there 59 people on the reform delivery bodies—predominantly from the Scottish Government, Education Scotland and the SQA—but only three places for teachers? Why does that all sound vaguely familiar, like a game of musical chairs? Why is the cabinet secretary so afraid of new voices and new thinking in education reform? Did she even consider getting new people in?

Scotland needs teachers who are confident, held in high esteem and free to teach. It needs headteachers who are free to lead their schools and it needs pupils who are free to learn without disruption in the classroom. Scotland needs schools that inspire and uplift our young people to be all that they can be in life. If we get those principles right, we will succeed in vitalising our education system.

I hope that, when she stands to speak, we might see a cabinet secretary with some passion and reforming zeal, who will deliver an articulate vision of what Scottish education should be that goes beyond the normal SNP complacency and self-congratulation. Let us hear answers to the serious questions that I have asked in my speech and let her acknowledge the real challenges that we face. Then, let us work across Parliament to tackle them together.

I move,

That the Parliament believes that access to a first-class education is the right of all children; notes that teachers have been neglected and let down by the Scottish Government, that young people, from early years education to further and higher education, have suffered from failures in government, and that the people of Scotland have been let down by the undermining of an education system of which they were once proud; believes that, through badly-drawn reform, inaction and a failure to innovate, the Scottish Government has fundamentally undermined the education system in Scotland, meaning that action is required now to address these problems, and calls on the Scottish Government to urgently outline a new education plan with a focus on respect for Scotland’s teachers, opportunities for its young people and growth for the whole sector, so that education in Scotland can once again be the best gift for its children.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07111, in the name of Stephen Kerr, on the state of the Scottish education system. I invite members who w...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
It is my privilege to move the motion in my name, which speaks to what I believe is the most important thing over which we have power in this Parliament—Scot...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Stephen Kerr has not yet said whether a better pay increase should be offered, although that is what he is implying. I understand that teachers have been off...
Stephen Kerr Con
If I was at the negotiating table, the dispute would have been resolved months ago—Interruption.—but the cabinet secretary with responsibility to be at the n...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
Stephen Kerr did not answer the question. If he was at the negotiating table, what would he offer, and where would he take the money from in the education bu...
Stephen Kerr Con
I think that the cabinet secretary might have got things the wrong way round. She comes to Parliament to be held to account by the members of this Parliament...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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Stephen Kerr Con
I think that my friend already knows the answer to that: there is no evidence of anything happening. I will tell members what the current level of reported ...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Will the member give way?
Stephen Kerr Con
I will not give way. I have taken a number of interventions. The SNP is leaving many newly qualified teachers without jobs. Of nearly 1,800 probationers fro...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does Stephen Kerr agree that it was disappointing to see in the Scottish Government’s announcement last week that the new body will retain awarding and regul...
Stephen Kerr Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Shirley-Anne Somerville to speak to and move amendment S6M-07111.3, for around nine minutes. 15:16
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
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Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On the PISA figures, does the cabinet secretary not recognise that there is a long-term trend of decline in literacy and numeracy in our schools?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I recognise that we are continuing to strive to do better in literacy and numeracy. The achievement of a curriculum for excellence level—or ACEL—statistics, ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On that point, does the cabinet secretary not recognise the contention that people have made with regard to last week’s announcement that the new exam body w...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
There is an important reason for that decision. Although I saw Ken Muir’s point and where he was coming from, we must recognise that, in effect, his recommen...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
If Mr Rennie will forgive me, I will make a bit of progress. With the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, I co-convened the national discussion on a v...
Stephen Kerr Con
Does the cabinet secretary accept the criticism that has been levelled at those piloting the reform bodies that this is the same crew who were in the key pos...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I have on numerous occasions made very clear to Parliament my position on the teachers’ dispute. The last offer—the fourth offer—that was put to teachers was...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Michael Marra to speak to and move amendment S6M-07111.1. 15:26
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
Does Michael Marra agree that the achievement of curriculum for excellence level statistics that will be published next week, and the work around the health ...
Michael Marra Lab
Obviously, I have not seen those statistics. If the cabinet secretary wanted to talk about them in any detail, she could have brought them with her to Parlia...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I could not. They are not published yet.
Michael Marra Lab
Maybe the cabinet secretary has not seen them—let us wait and see what they say. I hope that there will be a statement on the statistics when they are produc...
Stephen Kerr Con
Hear, hear!
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
It is with the business bureau.