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Meeting of the Parliament 06 December 2022

06 Dec 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
COP27 Outcomes

That depends on the type of technology and the area in which those companies are working. For example, support with inward investment opportunities could come through Scottish Development International or from Scottish Enterprise, Highlands and Islands Enterprise or South of Scotland Enterprise. The answer depends on whether we are talking about an inward investment opportunity or an expansion opportunity. There are relevant bodies that can provide companies with support to expand their work in those areas. If the member has specific examples that he would like to share with me, I am more than happy to take that information away and to ensure that he gets a more detailed response.

However, we cannot meet the climate crisis alone. It is a global challenge that requires us to work together as a global community with a shared sense of urgency. The two annual United Nations conferences of the parties—COP27, on climate, which was held last month in Egypt, and COP15, the 15th conference of the parties to the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity, which will start tomorrow in Montreal—are key moments for the international community to come together to build consensus, commit to taking action and, importantly, hold one another to account.

Over 100 heads of state and Governments and 35,000 participants attended COP27 and negotiations finished two days later than planned, making the international gathering in Sharm el-Sheikh one of the longest and largest COPs that has been held. The agenda was packed with opportunities to strengthen and deepen relationships in order to tackle climate change and for the wider benefit of Scotland.

During COP27, the First Minister and the Minister for Environment and Land Reform held bilateral meetings with a significant number of different parties including ministers from across the world and other key stakeholders. Additionally, building on our work at COP26 in Glasgow, we committed to providing a platform for the voices of those who are traditionally underrepresented at COP events. In order to take that further forward, the minister and the First Minister met a range of representatives from youth organisations and civil organisations, particularly from the global south.

There was huge interest in Scotland’s transition to renewables, particularly in relation to offshore wind and green hydrogen—spaces in which Scotland is seen as a world leader. We shared our pioneering model for a just transition. We also used COP to urge our partners to prioritise as far as possible an approach to energy security that focuses on sustainability, with measures to promote energy efficiency and to accelerate the development of renewable and low-carbon energy.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07093, in the name of Màiri McAllan, on outcomes from the 27th United Nations climate change conference o...
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero, Energy and Transport (Michael Matheson) SNP
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Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
When I speak to businesses, they say that the public support from Governments—both Scotland’s Governments—is difficult to access. What can the Scottish Gover...
Michael Matheson SNP
That depends on the type of technology and the area in which those companies are working. For example, support with inward investment opportunities could com...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Michael Matheson SNP
I ask the member to allow me to make a little more progress first. What did COP27 achieve? It has seen the clearest acknowledgement to date that the people ...
Monica Lennon Lab
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary, because he is making some very important points. I want to bring the debate back to the topic of the just transition...
Michael Matheson SNP
Monica Lennon has raised an important point. We have set out clearly our position that the continued and unabated extraction of fossil fuels is not compatibl...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Michael Matheson SNP
I will give way to Liam Kerr, although I am keen to finish within the timescale.
Liam Kerr Con
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Michael Matheson SNP
I have not seen such a quote from Stephen Flynn. If he said that, he is entitled to his view. However, I am sure that Liam Kerr is wise enough to recognise t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I invite Liam Kerr to speak to and move amendment S6M-07093.2. 14:40
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
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Liam Kerr Con
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Monica Lennon Lab
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Liam Kerr Con
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Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Liam Kerr Con
Will I have time at the end, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You will have a wee bit of time.
Liam Kerr Con
In that case, I will take the intervention if the member is very quick.
Gillian Martin SNP
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Liam Kerr Con
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Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Brian Whittle Con
Does Mr Smyth agree with me that the drag on producing electric vehicle charging points is preventing us from moving to the use of such vehicles?
Colin Smyth Lab
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak for the Scottish Liberal Democrats in this important debate, and I thank Màiri McAllan and the Scottish Government for securing time fo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate.
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Can you clarify whether we are able to intervene on remote speakers and how we do so?