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Meeting of the Parliament 30 November 2022

30 Nov 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Violence Against Women and Girls (Men’s Role in Eradication)
McKelvie, Christina SNP Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse Watch on SPTV

It is, of course, right that this Parliament collectively recognises the global campaign—the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence—that highlights the brutality that women across the world still face. However, it is with a sense of regret that we have to do so at all. That, in itself, ensures that the spotlight is on what remains one of the most difficult challenges our society faces here, in Scotland, and throughout the world: violence perpetrated against women by men.

Of course, it is not all men, by any means, but we need to examine the underlying causes of such violence so that we can prevent it. We must change the everyday sexism and misogyny in society, here and elsewhere, that can help to perpetuate violence or support people to look away when they should speak up. That is where we are seeing a shift in society now. Men are recognising that they have a role in standing against violence against women and girls by changing the way that they behave and calling out behaviour among other men.

Men’s silence can feel supportive or even condoning of the violence that women and girls experience. As the philosopher Paulo Friere said,

“Washing one’s hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.”

It is vital that men speak out. We need men to lead by example to their friends, family and children.

I say to men that we need you to reflect on your past experiences and on the times that you may have inadvertently been permissive about misogynistic values because it was framed as a joke or maybe just banter. We need you to look critically at how the power imbalance has impacted those whom you know and love, and we need you to carry those messages proactively to the men around you.

Men must take the lead on this challenge. They hold a unique place in challenging their peers, even when it might be uncomfortable—believe me, that discomfort is less damaging than being a victim of violence. That is what is refreshing about Police Scotland’s “That guy” campaign. The campaign, which is an excellent example of men standing up to be counted, challenges casual sexism and encourages self-reflection. It urges men to take responsibility for their actions and those of their peers in order to help to effect a culture change to tackle sexual crime against women. The current phase asks men to challenge their friends’ behaviour and to talk openly to male friends about behaviour that is damaging to women. First launched in October 2021, the online campaign has been viewed more than 6 million times globally and has been adapted for use in countries worldwide.

The campaign puts the onus on men, and not women, to change their behaviour. As women, we already modify our behaviour every single day, but we should not have to and we certainly do not want to. We should not have to stop our evening run in the park because it gets dark early. We should not have to walk from the bus stop with our keys rammed in our hands in case somebody jumps us. We should not have to take a different route home to avoid a group of men, and we certainly should not be telling our daughters to cross the road if a man is walking behind them. None of us should have to put up with sexism and misogyny or be subject to abuse and violence, yet that is still happening the world over.

Although I recognise that change is happening, it is not taking place at the pace that we would expect or can accept. Collectively, we need to do more. That is why men must speak up and act.

Last Friday—the first day of the 16 days of activism—I spoke at the north-east violence against women forum. Other speakers included Ryan Hart, whose coercively controlling father murdered his mother and sister in 2016, and Kirsty Spencer, who spoke eloquently and powerfully about her sister, Dawn Rhodes, whose husband killed her in their family home. They provided a stark message about the harm that is caused by such violence to individuals, their families and their friends, and to society. They also spoke about the necessity of professionals understanding the issues and responding in a risk and trauma-informed way.

We also heard from people on the front line who provide essential support to victims and survivors about the necessity of continuing to focus on this issue and of building the capacity and confidence to deal with it.

I fully endorse the clear messages that emerged from the forum on the need to maintain momentum not just today but throughout the year. Addressing violence against women is a task not just for these 16 days, but for 365 days a year—each and every year. That is how we can make a difference not just today, through this debate, but every day in how we speak, work and act.

That is why the work of the equally safe strategy, which is co-authored and co-owned by the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, is vital. The strategy, along with the accompanying delivery plan, has been a key driver in many of the improvements that have been made. Those include changes to legislation, increases in funding, work to drive forward prevention approaches, and capacity building for the workforce. I will continue to work with partners to continue that momentum, to ensure that the equally safe strategic approach continues to deliver the galvanising focus that it has done to date.

We are investing record levels of funding in front-line support services, capacity-building projects and prevention. Our delivering equally safe fund provides £19 million per year to support 121 projects that focus on early intervention, prevention and support services. The Scottish Government is committed to providing funding that works most effectively to improve outcomes for those who use the services. As such, an independent strategic review of funding to tackle violence against women and girls is under way, and I look forward to seeing the report’s recommendations in the summer of 2023.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-07002, in the name of Christina McKelvie, on recognising the vital role that men must play in challenging...
The Minister for Equalities and Older People (Christina McKelvie) SNP
It is, of course, right that this Parliament collectively recognises the global campaign—the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence—that highlight...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Minister, you have talked about the risks, the momentum and the funding that is required, and I whole-heartedly support you in that regard. However, there is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind members that they need to speak through the chair.
Christina McKelvie SNP
Mr Stewart has pre-empted the next part of my speech, so I thank him for that intervention. Earlier this month, I met members of the equally safe joint stra...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The minister talked about ethnic minorities and BAME communities. What work is the Scottish Government doing to reach out to the men of those communities? We...
Christina McKelvie SNP
That is exactly what the debate is about. Across the equally safe joint strategic board, we have been doing that work and talking to all our diverse communit...
Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the minister for bringing such an important debate to the chamber, and I am honoured to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. This...
Karen Adam (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Will Pam Gosal take an intervention?
Pam Gosal Con
Yes.
Karen Adam SNP
Predatory men do exist. They do not need to dress as a woman or to sign a statutory declaration for a gender recognition certificate in order to attack women...
Pam Gosal Con
The member is absolutely right, but there has to be a balance. I have said that in all the committees that I have made representations to. The balance must b...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour in the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence. We welcome that the subject of the deb...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank my front bencher for giving way. Do you agree with me that, because of that prevalence in our education system, some responsibility needs to be take...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind members to speak through the chair.
Pauline McNeill Lab
I recognise the issue, and I agree that we should investigate it in a deeper way and think about how we can restrict such activity. In the social media age,...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Violence against women and girls is underpinned by a culture of sexism and misogyny. Sexism and sexual harassment are normalised in our society. Daily occurr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 15:38
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I have been speaking in debates on the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence since 2016—that is six years of highlighting with other members the ...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am privileged to be able to contribute to this important debate, and I thank the Scottish Government for lodging it. According to Engender, the root cause ...
Karen Adam SNP
Presiding Officer, I am concerned that we are conflating the gender recognition bill with men’s responsibility for gender-based violence. We should not be st...
Brian Whittle Con
I absolutely agree with the member on that point, but the trouble is that, as the UN special rapporteur Reem Alsalem said, the proposals “do not sufficientl...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
I thank the Minister for Equalities and Older People, Christina McKelvie, who has brought the issue of pervasive violence against women and girls to the atte...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a pleasure to follow Bill Kidd’s speech, in which he talked of the evils of commercial sexual exploitation. I start by referring to the members’ busin...
Kaukab Stewart (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
This debate is specifically about the role of men in challenging and eradicating violence against women and girls. I am sorry that some have chosen to weapon...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
James Dornan joins us remotely. 16:17
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
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Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?