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Meeting of the Parliament 09 November 2022

09 Nov 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Motions

The convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee imposed an unnecessarily short amendment deadline on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill at stage 2. I am told that there are around 100 amendments and that more would have been submitted had the deadline not been so restrictive.

The motion sets a deadline for finishing stage 2 on 23 November. That has already caused the convener of the committee to inform members that consideration will be completed in just two sittings and that a two-tiered speaking allocation system will be in place, dividing those who have amendments in their name and those who do not. That is clearly a restriction on scrutiny.

Imposing the short deadline is utterly needless. It just creates the prospect of getting things wrong.

My amendment would allow for two more sittings to consider the proposed amendments properly. That should not be controversial, because we have plenty of time in hand to do so. However, when I suggested that to the Parliamentary Bureau, I was battered down by the Government. The Scottish National Party wants to rush the bill through before Christmas.

I have tried to get to the bottom of why it might be doing that, and I have received increasingly unconvincing answers from the Minister for Parliamentary Business. For example, last week I was told that there was a programme of legislation to get through, so we needed to get this bill out of the way quickly. However, the Parliament’s legislation tracker shows that, other than the GRR Bill, there are just two bills with a deadline approaching in the next four months. That leaves plenty of time to consider the bill properly.

This week, the minister suggested that, because the bill deals with vulnerable groups, we must get it passed as soon as possible. However, those groups have been waiting for years for reform. I am sure that they will be the first to say that a couple of weeks extra, to make sure that we get the bill right, is more than worth it.

We must strive for high-quality legislation. We do not want this Parliament to become an embarrassing case, studied at universities worldwide, of how not to do gender reform legislation.

So, why the rush? The reasons that have been given do not make sense, and I am not sure that even the minister believes them.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-06687, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a bus...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-06688, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on a stage 2 time...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Alexander Burnett to speak to and move amendment S6M-06688.1. You have up to five minutes, Mr Burnett. 17:01
Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
The convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee imposed an unnecessarily short amendment deadline on the Gender Recognition Reform (...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I am not sure that the Government even believes its own reasons, either. Just this week, in the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee, we ...
Alexander Burnett Con
I thank the member for the intervention, and I completely agree with her. That information dismantles Mr Adam’s initial argument about the volume of upcoming...
Jackson Carlaw (Eastwood) (Con) Con
As somebody who very much hopes to be able to support the bill at stage 3, I say that that becomes more difficult if the discussion of the amendments that so...
Alexander Burnett Con
I thank the member for that intervention. Others have mentioned that it is extremely unfortunate that the process is becoming part of the politics. The only...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call George Adam to respond on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau. 17:06
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (George Adam) SNP
I cannot be held accountable for Mr Burnett’s lack of recall of what was discussed in the Parliamentary Bureau. He has taken little snippets of the conversat...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour is focused on the substance of our amendments rather than timetabling. We are therefore prepared to support the Government’s timetabling prop...
George Adam SNP
To reassure Mr Bibby, I point out that, as he is well aware, it would be up to the convener of the committee to approach the Parliamentary Bureau and say tha...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment S6M-06688.1, in the name of Alexander Burnett, which seeks to amend motion S6M-06688, in the name of George Adam, on a stage ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. There will be a suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 17:09 Meeting suspended. 17:11 On resuming—
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the vote on amendment S6M-06688.1, in the name of Alexander Burnett. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is now closed.
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not work, but I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. We will ensure that that is recorded.
The Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to access the app in time to vote. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. We will ensure that that is recorded. I can confirm to Carol Mochan that her vote was recorded. For Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Briggs, Mi...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division on amendment S6M-06688.1, in the name of Alexander Burnett, is: For 30, Against 89, Abstentions 0. Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next question is, that motion S6M-06688, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on a stage 2 timetable, be agreed to. Are we ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. Members should cast their votes now. The vote is now closed.
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app was not working. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. We will ensure that that is recorded. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherw...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division on motion S6M-06688, in the name of George Adam, on a stage 2 timetable, is: For 90, Against 29, Abstentions 0. Motion agreed to,...